429 460 E385 engine?

[Fireballferkey]

what is the weakest link in a 429 460 block/engine in general, and what are some good cast numbers to look for heads as well? I think the DOVE heads are the low comp arnt they?

[tilla]

The dove heads are high comp. prolly the best in stock form other then the cobra jet heads I have a couple sets of dove heads one set I am using and the others need a little brazing done to them very hogged out and one exhaust port has a tiny pin hole and drips coolant but they also have big stainless valves like the cobra jet heads. I have heard that the late 60's and early 70's blocks are weak but I'm not sure. I'm sure it depends on how much ponies you plan on pulling out of it. I bet Jim or Darrell might know something in more detail.
I have been pounding a 1970 block for about 10 years now but it aint much out of stock form, healthy cam, intake,carb and headers 440 hp and usually when I run it my foot is in the carb. And other then a cam change it has been flawless as far as the motor goes but I have broke everything from the tailshaft of the C-6 on back LOL.

[Geezer]

The place for info;

http://www.460ford.com/

Quick answers;

Stock blocks built correctly good to 800hp and some even more.

Their are some real rocket scientist on that board, Lemi Evans and Kaase
come to mind.

[bod89lx]

68, 69 blocks are the strongest, but for most strret strip set ups any block will be ok, my old 460 made 640 rwhp on spray and block was fine but the cast pistons and truck rods didnt hold up as well.

[Never Evil]

Get a Lincoln 460 block...PERIOD. It is the strongest block you can get and is thicker than a truck block. All regular Ford parts will work and you will have a block that is nearly bulletproof.

[Slow Ride]

nevermind

[tilla]

Get a Lincoln 460 block...PERIOD. It is the strongest block you can get and is thicker than a truck block. All regular Ford parts will work and you will have a block that is nearly bulletproof.
Does it matter what year and why are Lincoln blocks thicker than any other 460 block? Just curious I have one out of a 73 Lincoln and a 70 429 out of a Mercury.

[Fireballferkey]

are any of these set ups good or are they all junk?

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?SearchType=Engine&N=700+4294908331+4294840123+4294889098+4294925232+ 4294919598+115+400075

[Geezer]

Fireball:

If you would check out the above link, and read the post. It will answer ever question
you could think of about the 460. The cast crank is good for about 800hp level. Scat
has just introduced a forged stroker crank that could take you to above 1100hp. At
that level the stock block could be the weekest link, then you step up to an aftermarket or A460 block.

Read the board, knowledge is your greatest asset, with your checkbook being next
in line.

Geezer

[OUTLAW1]

just one littel note when you get the motor you are looking for if you run a stock dist drill the dist gear roll pin out to a bbc size! :hello:

[UPdragracer]

:wall: [Dumb question] is there a marine block ? for boats ? I have seen that some of those blocks seem to be pretty stout as well in comparison to automotive applications :wall:

[bod89lx]

How much power are you looking to make ?? If less than 750 or so dont waste your money on high dollar parts they are not needed. Also invest in a hydraulic roller cam well worth the money and it will be easy on your valve train, also the Kasse alum. SCJ heads will be more than enough for you as well I have thease heads and they are great just get a set of unported ones and you will be good to go. Also dont waste your money on a dominator go with a 4150 HP carb i have made well over 1200 HP with one on spray and 850 hp on motor with one.

[Never Evil]

Go with a late 60's early 70's block. They are the blocks that handle the best.

[Fireballferkey]

How much power are you looking to make ?? Also invest in a hydraulic roller cam well worth the money and it will be easy on your valve train, also the Kasse alum. SCJ heads will be more than enough for you as well I have thease heads and they are great just get a set of unported ones and you will be good to go.
Ok heres what I have going on I have a 79 460 and a I think 70 429 both virgin long blocks. What I plan to do is just get the 429 up and runing and In the car! (car is a secret) I then plan on building the 460 into a strocker motor that puts out between 600 and 800 reliable NA hp if possible I would like this streetable now I know every one has there own Idea of what this means to me in this car it means 10mpg and drive down the Interstate at 65mph for a good hour and be able to turn around and come back... Possible Im not sure but thats what Id like. I have thought go with the stroker kit and high compression with the Idea of runing E85. I agree with the full roller Idea. I have looked at the heads $$$ but I think it would be money well spent did you need your pistons custom cut for the Kasse heads I read something about the valve angles on them been diff and did they use BBC or BBF exhaust flange bolt pattern. what intake as well? Geezer I have checked out the site you listed and it has been very use full thanks a ton.

[70Maverick]

I have had excellent luck with my 460 engines in the past and present! My 80 Capri had a 70 casting 429 block 460 crank,(which just makes it a 460, and DOVE heads. That car was a truely streetable car. It had completely stock short block with the exception of ARP rod bolts. Even the cast dished pistons! I had a good port job on the heads a flat tappet hyd. Comp "305" series cam, Edelbrock victor intake and a Holly 950 H.P. carb. I only ran 93 octane pump gas in it, and with a C6 and a 9in. with 3.70 gears it went 11.29 at 119. My first motor in my Torino was a 69 Lincoln 460, .040 over, Keith Black hyperutectic pistons, stock crank and rods again with good bolts. The heads were C9VE Lincoln castings (the same as DOVE castings,) with a gasket match port job and nothing else. It had a Edelbrock Torker intake and a 1000 H.P. Holley carb. Compression was 12:5, and the cam was a Comp solid flat tappet with 614 lift. With a C6 with a 10" converter and 4.30 gears its best pass was a 11.21 at 120 in 3900# car. My new 514 is a stock 70 block with a scat crank, eagle rods, JE pistons 12:5:1 comp, Comp solid roller cam 260-270 dur @ .050 with .720 lift, FMS aluminum Cobra-Jet heads, (the old ones, unported box stock) with a tunnel ram intake with two 750's. The same C6 with a 10in. ATI converter and 4.30 gears it went a best of 10.21 at 131 this fall at WIR in my heavy barge. I really like these engines and I think they make good reliable power for a decent price. I'm shooting for the 9's N/A this spring with minimal changes and some tuning, then she'll get the juice! :gotnos:

[Geezer]

Ok heres what I have going on I have a 79 460 and a I think 70 429 both virgin long blocks. What I plan to do is just get the 429 up and runing and In the car! (car is a secret) I then plan on building the 460 into a strocker motor that puts out between 600 and 800 reliable NA hp if possible I would like this streetable now I know every one has there own Idea of what this means to me in this car it means 10mpg and drive down the Interstate at 65mph for a good hour and be able to turn around and come back... Possible Im not sure but thats what Id like. I have thought go with the stroker kit and high compression with the Idea of runing E85. I agree with the full roller Idea. I have looked at the heads $$$ but I think it would be money well spent did you need your pistons custom cut for the Kasse heads I read something about the valve angles on them been diff and did they use BBC or BBF exhaust flange bolt pattern. what intake as well? Geezer I have checked out the site you listed and it has been very use full thanks a ton.


The Kaase SCJ heads use the BBF exhaust pattern. You might be able to get
by not notching the pistons if the cam were mild. If a more agressive cam
is used, you can either purchase the pistons for the heads, or notch your
current pistons using a notching tool that Isky cam sells. A second option
would be to use the TFS- street heads. They will support 800hp if rubbed
on, and notching the pistons would not be needed. Both heads cost about
the same.

If you really want to get crazy, Kaase is about ready to release his new P-51
head, based on the CJ design, with intake flows in the 400cfm range, but will
require the valve notching like the SCJ's. I have my eye on these currently,
but I am running low ten's NA, and cannot use the NOS button as it is, because of the NHRA rules for under 9.99. Yep, old age sucks !!

Good luck on your project

Geezer

[Fireballferkey]

I have my eye on these currently,
but I am running low ten's NA, and cannot use the NOS button as it is, because of the NHRA rules for under 9.99. Yep, old age sucks !!
Good luck on your project Geezer
I hear ya Im not sure on IHRA rules but Im young with health conditions that will hold me back from ever running in the NHRA some of the rules are B.S. to me what diff does it make if ya run in the 11.-- or if ya go 9.99? as long as they dont ask I will not tell.