Goodwin ????????????

[Stud]

I heard today that Goodwin farms out his heads to a guy in Oshkosh. A lot of "HIS" headwork isn't even done by his shop.
I found this interesting.

[1SLO5.0]

Two words, BUTCH PATTERSON

That has been going on for years.

[Jim]

who did you hear it from? do you know which shop it is in oshkosh?

[Mijal]

That is surprising. I went there with 67 and we seen his cnc machine.There werent any heads being done in there though.

[Jim]

........maybe he farms out just sbc Dart iron heads for 350's. :D::D::D::D::D::D::D::D::D:

[clayton bigsby]

Originally posted by Darrell
Two words, BUTCH PATTERSON

That has been going on for years. thats the guy that did my canfeilds he does excellent work.

[Stud]

Not Butch. Some Dietser or something like that. He is the guy with those old Army trucks that used to be on 4th street and now he's off 41. I guess he has this old barn and has 2 cnc machines in there and works on all kinds of stuff.

[Jim]

there is also a guy in Lamartine who does stuff too. he bought a lot of machines from merc marine.

[67Mike]

I bet a guy could make some good money doing that.
I should buy a CNC mill.

[1SLO5.0]

I heard Butch has been doing work for him for years and then going up and using Goodwin's flowbench to verify his work.

[Jim]

Originally posted by 67Mike
I bet a guy could make some good money doing that.
I should buy a CNC mill.

how do they work? do you just basically bolt the head down and use someone elses program? if so, and you could get proven programs, i bet a guy could make some money at it.

[1SLO5.0]

Big money!!! Do it Mike! Mike V's Performance Head Work

I'll be your first customer!

[67Mike]

You have to program it yourself. Goodwin told me it took him 1 year and he junked 6 BBC Merlin heads before he got his program just right. That was about 6 years ago at his old shop. He was working on making a program for DART at the time also.

I do have a degree in machine tool technology.....................but I dont think I can afford the 250,000 CNC 5 axis milling machine at this time.
But that is something I would REALLY like to do.

[Jim]

couldn't you just use someone elses program though? just input the data into the computer, strap the head down and go? i don't know anything about these things.

[jdsgallops]

You could if you could find someone to give you their numbers. I doubt anyone is just gonna give out numbers they worked a year or more to get(not to mention the junk heads that were created), for nothing. You might be able to pay for them but then you have more $$$$ investment. I tried playing with a stock head on a standard mill and it would be better than nothing, for someone that has a mill and the knowledge to use it( I didn't and the "ex father in law" didn't exactly understand what I was trying to do). It would at least creat a consistent port job on each port.

[WICKED]

My fater owned an industrial equipment company and I worked for him for 4-5 years before he passed away. I did get a chance to work with a bunch of machinists and those CNC machines are nothign to sneeze at. I do beleive that someone new to that field woudl have to take a class to learn how to program the PLC anf computer on the CNC machine. There are programs for PC's tat make it easier to work with but you woudl also have to know how to use a CAD like program too.. That woudl be kille rif someone here coudl put all that togetehr!! I woudl stand in line behind Darrell!!

[Slow Ride]

I know how to program PLC's and know a little machine code. Most of the time all you need is a CAD model and then there are some really good conversion programs that can change the picture on the screen into a language the CNC machine understands.

[WICKED]

yep thats the impresion that I got also. Can you imagine opening up your garage and seeing a CNC machine in there!!

All I can think of is all the things that I would make out of aluminum billet stock.

[bohn]

When you buy new CNC equipment, they teach you the basics of it. Cinncinati is a good one for that, they send a rep out to help you set it up and program it.

[slobby]

good vollert should buy one and have the rep set it up for him do everything. me and mijal will help you load it up.

[Randy Schonscheck]

As far I know Todd does all his head work in his shop. Lots of times he works his magic when even all of his employees are gone home for the night. Butch does a great job of engine machining and engine building too. Butch has done the work on Nick Reinhart's Extreme Street Champion Nova, but for the last little bit of porting etc is done by Todd. Because that is and has always been Todd's specialty. It doesn't matter if it's limited late model short track stuff or big cubic inch nitrous stuff. All the CNC machine does is save alot of time porting and getting all the ports close from one runner and one head to the other, then everything is still touched up with the hand grinder for that last little bet of power and flow.