Some things frucked up!HELP

[superjeep]

Ok, I changed my oil and all that so I could take my car out. Its going fine I swing over to my buddies house about 3 or 4 miles away pick him up to go some were else and all of a sudden my engine is running like 25psi of oil pressure when usually it runs like 60psi just idleing. I figured it was from the heat? But then it just started cutting out and wanting to die and then it did and it wont start? Usaully its a tap of the key to pop it off. And it misses at higher rpms? I am thinkin maybe something with spark? Cause it is getting plenty of fuel. But whats up with the oil pressure? It's a brand new high volume pump,with 10-w 40 quaker state. I was thinkin maybe my vacum advance making it miss? I don't understand the sh!itty oil pressure. Motor has all new bearings/gaskets/cam-lifters/oil pump. What the hell is going on at this rate I am ready to sell everything and say fruck it! :cry:

[1fastdeuce]

Who put the motor together?

[Stud]

Did you use a Fram filter?

[1SLO5.0]

My car only has 20 psi at idle but it has 80 psi at 8000 rpm.

[kamu]

My car only has 20 psi at idle but it has 80 psi at 8000 rpm.

Mine also. They say all you need is 10 psi per 1000 rpm

[superjeep]

I put the engine together. Yes I used a fram what would that do? I always use them. It usaully idled at 60 and rand 80+ at higher rpms. I think I broke some teeth of the distibutor shaft(hopefully not cam gear). I ordered a pro comp hei distributor for it. I am going to pull mine out and see if its broke. I am almost positive it's something with the distributor,its the only thing not new.

[Stud]

I had a bad experience with a brand new Fram once. NO OIL PRESSURE!

[cevan]

did that little collar on the oil pump shaft maybe crack and its skipping? i use to use FRAM filters till one day the filter fell apart at the rolled seam and blew my motor (which they wouldnt cover!!)

[superjeep]

really? How would that happen? I just changed the oil and put a tuff one or some crap like that, fram on it. I had a remote oil filter till I blew a line and just put a filter on it.

[Slow Ride]

I had a Fram split the case and spew oil on the headers. Not a fun fire to put out.

[superjeep]

I hope not. The collar that holds the shaft in the pump your talking about right? Its also new I hope not! That would suck d!ck I would have to pull my engine again.... If that happened I am building a complete new engine! I was busy all day and am heading up to lake MI to salmon fish all weekend so I can't check distributor till monday, but my new one should be in by then.

[Fireballferkey]

I had a Fram split the case and spew oil on the headers. Not a fun fire to put out.
I will never use a fram filter of any sorts they suck the big one... I have had good luck with K&N and Napa Gold series on every thing from my rocket to the mustang or cobra.

[superjeep]

I dont understand how an oil filter could cause bad pressure? But I will try a different one. I am going to get some thicker synthetic oil and some lucas.

[brommosauto]

I put the engine together. Yes I used a fram what would that do? I always use them. It usaully idled at 60 and rand 80+ at higher rpms. I think I broke some teeth of the distibutor shaft(hopefully not cam gear). I ordered a pro comp hei distributor for it. I am going to pull mine out and see if its broke. I am almost positive it's something with the distributor,its the only thing not new.

Thats way too high of oil pressure.Or comp eliminator engine had less than that.Oil pressure was 65psi at 9500rpms.

[T-Bagger]

Thats way too high of oil pressure.Or comp eliminator engine had less than that.Oil pressure was 65psi at 9500rpms.
my car got 60 at idle my bros daily driver has 50 at idle and my truck has 15 my tahoe has 35

[superjeep]

It ran 50-60 and 80+ at higher r's. I am not worried about idle I was getting up in the r's and running like 20-30psi.

[brommosauto]

To high of oil pressure just causes problems and robs hores power.25 to 35psi at idle is fine than about 45-55psi at rpm.That is just my experince.

[superjeep]

I don't know Maybe it the high volume oil pump I put in?:dunno:

[nos2go]

high volume is different then high pressure, my motor is so loose I had to shim the oil pump by-pass to get pressure up.

[68Bowtie]

My motor runs 20 at idle, and about 65 at 6200.

[superjeep]

I think the oil is just to thin and my distributor is messed up. I am waiting for my new one to come. I ordered a brand new pro comp for it.

[UPdragracer]

10 lbs per 1000 rpm up to 65 psi is a pretty good rule of thumb for a SB chevy . I like to see 35 plus psi at idle . but that' just me LOL!!

[Fireballferkey]

To high of oil pressure just causes problems and robs hores power.25 to 35psi at idle is fine than about 45-55psi at rpm.That is just my experince.
Thats exactly what my 302 gets 25 hot at idle and about 48-52 between 2000+rpm.

[Fireballferkey]

I think the oil is just to thin and my distributor is messed up.
You said you were running 10-40 that is not to thin at all and will not make that big of a difference when warmed up... The distributor on the other hand could make a huge difference if it is not spining the pump...

[T-Bagger]

my bros truck has a mech oil gauge and when you turn off the truck it will hold oil pressure for about 5 - 10 min its wierd

[1SLO5.0]

I dont understand how an oil filter could cause bad pressure? But I will try a different one. I am going to get some thicker synthetic oil and some lucas.


There is more to an oil filter than just filtering oil. ALL of the engine oil goes thru the filter BEFORE it goes anywhere else in the engine.

[1fastdeuce]

There is more to an oil filter than just filtering oil. ALL of the engine oil goes thru the filter BEFORE it goes anywhere else in the engine.
As long as the bypass is closed. If it is stuck open, you will also lose pressure.

[UPdragracer]

As long as the bypass is closed. If it is stuck open, you will also lose pressure.

usually caused by wayward engine parts like bearing or cam material :wall:

[1fastdeuce]

usually caused by wayward engine parts like bearing or cam material :wall:
Or a very restrictive filter.(Fram)

[UPdragracer]

Or a very restrictive filter.(Fram)

LOL!!! also when someone goobers silicone on every gasket he uses :696:

I have taken apart engines where the oil the oil pump screen was almost plugged up :nono:

[superjeep]

Bypass? I hope nothing internal broke....

[Fireballferkey]

LOL!!! also when someone goobers silicone on every gasket I have taken apart engines where the oil the oil pump screen was almost plugged up :nono:
Yeah or I have seen where it gets between the cam and distributor gear and locked up or busted the shaft twists it right off. More isnt allways better no sub for good gaskets and the correct addhesive.

[jeff endisch]

my motor would have alot of oil pressure ,if it ran hahahahahahahahahahahah i wish my 2 stroke has pressure like that j/k

[superjeep]

I never overdid any gasket material.

[badass88gt]

My engine only sees 15psi at 1000rpm. Fram filters are junk.

[1fastdeuce]

Bypass? I hope nothing internal broke....
The bypass is built into the aluminum piece that you screwed the filter onto.

[superjeep]

How would you tell if its messed up?

[1fastdeuce]

How would you tell if its messed up?
Unbolt it off the block and if the spring falls out then its junk. New oil filter adapters are about $8.00 so it isn't to try and see if it helps otherwise you could take the retaining clip and spring out of it, tap the hole with a 1/4" pipe tap and plug it. This is what I would recommend that way it is impossible for the oil to bypass the filter.

[cevan]

did the high volume pump just suck the pan dry? maybe?

[superjeep]

I dont know?

[OUTLAW1]

it could have washed the cyl down check the plugs,for oil, if not you could have broke the rollpin for the dist gear ,very common in hv hp pumps, if so drill it to a larger rollpin and that will help that,if it is the rollpin also you do not need 10/40 oil .(a sny 5/30 or 5/40 will be alot better on all the parts),and free up some of the friction. let me know what you find

[arndtee]

If you end up plugging the bypass like 1fastdeuce said, make sure you run a quality oil filter like k+n or Napa Gold, definitly not a fram. I have seen a few cars blow the cheapo canister filters apart, definitly not fun. Remember all the oil has to go through the filter when you do this, high pressure and all.

[1fastdeuce]

What he said^^^

[superjeep]

I did have a remote oil filter but then blew a line so I took it off and screwed a filter on and thats when my problems started. I have to pull the distributor and see if thats broke. I ordered a better one any way.

[superjeep]

Just pulled my distributor and theres nothing broke,looked down dist. hole all good. Oil pressure must be that thing duece is talking about. Distributor looks fine but doesn't mean it has good spark it would miss at higher r's so I think its the 30 year old distributor. Sucks just put new oil in it and now I have to drain it to check the bypass. :bss: Sh!t aint cheap! I am going to buy some Royal Purple seems like good stuff? Any of you tried it? O.K Duece I take this thing of and tap it for a bolt? Hot rod "it could have washed the cyl down" whats taht mean? I thought 10w40 summer 5w30 winter? Thats how I always did it.

[nos2go]

every engine is different, depends on how tight-loose your motor is. I run 15W40 Rotella or Delvac.

[superjeep]

My engine was just rebuilt and put together amybe 8 miles on it after break in so that would be considered tight,right? I have heard to run 20-50 but that sh!t is like maple syrup. I will probably run 5or10-30/40

[arndtee]

When the line blew on the remote filter, how much oil/pressure did you lose?
Did you run it out of oil or did the line just leak?

[superjeep]

It just blew alot out the line. There was still oil in it and running like 30psi. Hope I didn't burn up the pump.

[arndtee]

No the pump should be fine, just checking to make sure it didnt go dry. Just trying to get all the info.

[arndtee]

Oh and you shouldnt have to drain the oil in the pan to check the bypass, just unscrew the filter. You will only have to add the amount of oil that is in the filter after you check it. Just trying to save you some $$$.

[badass88gt]

I run Royal Purple. Good stuff. What are your bearing clearances?

[superjeep]

I dont know bearing clearance it's a .030 under crank with new bearings. I plastiguaged it but I don't remember? I did it all myself except the cam bearings. This is my first rebuild on my own. But I double and triple checked every single torque spec when I put it together.

[1fastdeuce]

O.K Duece I take this thing of and tap it for a bolt?
Take out the retaining clip(if it hasn't already fallen out), the spring and a little disk will fall out. Tap the hole with a 1/4 pipe tap starting from the side the filter goes on. Install a 1/4" pipe plug.

[superjeep]

ok I wil give that a try. It's all sh!ty and wet out so I am going to wait for that to stop. Figures I get my fugly p.o.s ready for the cruise and something has to screw up!