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T-Bagger
03-03-2006, 10:18 AM
say if you move your motor back in your chasi how far back do you move it before you notice a difference does it make a noticable difference i was just wondering because i have to have a drive shaft made already and i have enough aluminum laying there to do the firewall it looks like i can go back at least 5" and still keep my dash have you guys done this and how did you like it thanks Don

Slow Ride
03-03-2006, 10:47 AM
Let's say you have a g-body with a 108 wheelbase and you move the engine back 5" then you will improve weight distribution by about 4.6% x 550lbs for eng/trans = 25.5lbs. You also have to take into account for the mass moment of inertia of teh whole vehicle when moving weight around. By moving that much mass that much closer to the CG you reduce it's affects my reducing it's "lever arm" about the CG. Let's say you accelerate at 1G and the stock location for the engine is about 48" ahead of the CG. Then the force the engine will induce will be 550*4 or 2200lb-ft about the CG impeding rise of the front end. Now move the engine and the force is reduced to 1971lb-ft. You decide if it is worth it for drag racing. For road racing it will help alot more since more mass will be closer to the CG and allow for quicker cornering as well as the added benefit of weight distribution.

nos2go
03-03-2006, 11:55 AM
your going to have to put your motor in the back seat if you think that little small block is going to lift the front end.

T-Bagger
03-03-2006, 12:02 PM
i totally want a ☺☺☺☺en wheelie even 1'' shit you did it in your regal with a boat anchor over the front end

1SLO5.0
03-03-2006, 04:18 PM
Let's say you have a g-body with a 108 wheelbase and you move the engine back 5" then you will improve weight distribution by about 4.6% x 550lbs for eng/trans = 25.5lbs. You also have to take into account for the mass moment of inertia of teh whole vehicle when moving weight around. By moving that much mass that much closer to the CG you reduce it's affects my reducing it's "lever arm" about the CG. Let's say you accelerate at 1G and the stock location for the engine is about 48" ahead of the CG. Then the force the engine will induce will be 550*4 or 2200lb-ft about the CG impeding rise of the front end. Now move the engine and the force is reduced to 1971lb-ft. You decide if it is worth it for drag racing. For road racing it will help alot more since more mass will be closer to the CG and allow for quicker cornering as well as the added benefit of weight distribution.


Good info there.

1SLO5.0
03-03-2006, 04:19 PM
i totally want a ****en wheelie even 1'' **** you did it in your regal with a boat anchor over the front end


Make some horsepower and you will.

bohn
03-03-2006, 05:15 PM
i totally want a ****en wheelie even 1'' **** you did it in your regal with a boat anchor over the front end

Take out the front shocks and gas yer acouple times. Either you'll pull the wheels up or throw up !!!

Slow Ride
03-03-2006, 10:45 PM
Might want to read this too...

http://phors.locost7.info/contents.htm

upngo50
03-03-2006, 11:41 PM
Might want to read this too...

http://phors.locost7.info/contents.htm


Great web site. I had to visit it several times for a class I was taking. Lots of reading!

Kevin Garceau
05-27-2006, 04:23 AM
you cannot go wrong, well you can but its always good to move as much weight back as you can.

Dont forget the little things like being able to access the tranney bolts etc. Also have to remember crank centerline and angle...

Jeezus this thread is months old and Im replying...what a maroon.

OK bored at work.