Wanted, bigger 302 cam.

[snowseeker]

Looking for something in the 450 -500 range. Would still like to use my stock lifters though.

Brommo, was this motor a roller or no?

[Birdman]

My brother has one it is 488

[Jim]

ive got the cam from my engine last year. it's a solid roller though.

[snowseeker]

birdman, could you ask him how much he wants for it?

Red, would you have a whole set to sell me (cam, lifters, rods)?

[Birdman]

he doesnt know...what do you think its worth....

[Jim]

i don't have a complete set of rods.............

no lifters.

and just a cam.

[snowseeker]

Birdman, I don't know, what are cams worth?

Red, Thanks anyhow, I would like to keep this motor as cheap as posible.

How about a Holley 650 Mech.?

[Jim]

Big John has one sitting on his 69 mustang.

[Birdman]

He said 25 for it and it had a 650 mech on it :shft: :shft:

[snowseeker]

I'll take it. Would he sell the carb too? [:)]

[Birdman]

i dont know for sure if hes using the carb or not....he may have put it on his cruiser car...he bought a couple at iola...check back sunday evening he went to the dells to race today...:shft:

[Birdman]

He has a holly but it needs to be rebuilt

[snowseeker]

Is the holley a 650 mech.? How much for that?

[snowseeker]

Did a little talking to Brommo the other night, and I just started the tear down on the 302. It is a roller motor. Birdman, the cam your brother has, is it a roller cam?

[Birdman]

No its not and he doesnt know if its a 650 or not...its big...:shft:

[snowseeker]

Well, I'll prolly take the carb anyhow. Email me with the price and where to pick it up. :bna

[Birdman]

when do you want it? my brother could take it to your house....he works second shift 2-10...he says he knows where you live

[snowseeker]

How about Mon. night? Or your brother or you could bring it out to C & M.

[Birdman]

hell bring it to c & m

[snowseeker]

I guess I am looking for a E 303 ford motorsports cam. Anyone have one or know someone with one for sale let meknow.

[Jim]

darrell might have something for you.

[jdsgallops]

I have an X cam if that will work. I will be up in 3 weeks so you wouldn't have to ship it if ya can wait that long.

[snowseeker]

X cam? I am not to up and up on cams right now. I need a cam for a 85? 302 roller motor. I would like to keep the original rollers if I could.

Would the X cam work with the rollers?

[jdsgallops]

The X cam is basicly a B cam with more lift. Specs out at 224/224@.050 .542/.542 on a 112. Yes it is a roller cam. I don't think it will fit with the trick flows I have on a stock shortblock and I don't want to waste my time to find out so it needs to go. I have $80 invested in it.

[snowseeker]

I don't know off hand how much I can go above 500. lift with the stock rollers. I will do some research and let you know.

[Jim]

i don't think the lifters will matter as much as your pistons snow.

[snowseeker]

Pistons are over rated anyhow! :)

I guess the stock roller dogbones are only good up to a certain lift. Anything over that lift will make the dogbones bind causing either the cam to break and / or a valve to go threw the piston.


Red, do you have any info on the piston to valve clearance on a 85 roller with flat tops stock?

[1SLO5.0]

Stock dogbones will handle at least .620 lift. I had a .620 roller in my blue car for a while. Piston to valve clearance will need to be checked with the cam in. You will have to clay the pistons. I wouldn't run it with stock heads. The car will be a pooch.

[snowseeker]

I'm not to woried about it being fast. This is going to be a cruiser car. Just want it to sound good.

Bring the X cam up with you jdsgallops.

[jdsgallops]

Will do. I have a piston to valve program I can run for you if you provide me with your specs. Provided I can ever get it installed. I am pretty sure it should clear. The trick flow stage 2 cam is reported to clear with Twisted wedge heads and it is the same intake lobe. I don't have a stock 2.02 valve in my heads so I don't want to get the car apart to find it won't clear.

[Jim]

i have a set of 11-1 ross forged pistons with big valve reliefs here that would be great in a street motor .

[1SLO5.0]

I might be interested in those................maybe. Need to build a new motor for the explorer pretty soon.

[FURO RACECRAFT]

Thats pretty funny

[snowseeker]

If darrel doesn't take them, how much red? Are they stock bore?

[jdsgallops]

Snow what else do you need? I have a ton of stuff to get rid of up there yet, including a complete rotating assembly that has Ross pistons too and has been balanced. That is what I wanted the block for that I was gonna get from ya. Only problem is they are dished pistons as they are for small chamber heads, which I also have. It is an early crank though so you would have to machine the oil slinger dow to fit the one piece seal block. Other than that it just needs some cleaning and a block honed to fit. It is actually the parts out of my old stang that use to run mid 13's. Pm me if you are interested, I will let this go really cheap.

[Jim]

Originally posted by snowseeker
If darrel doesn't take them, how much red? Are they stock bore?

they are .030 over, i actually have the reciept for those pistons yet.

we can work something out if darrell don't want 'em.

[snowseeker]

jdsgallops : I don't need alot. So far I have: Complete long block, intake, carb, waterpump.

I need an oil pan for a 65 stang, distributor/ignition, valve covers, cam, freeze plugs, and cam bearings.

Red: Thats ok, I don't think I want bore the block. :)

Thanks for the offer anyhow.

[FURO RACECRAFT]

BORE IT STROKE IT AN SPRAY THE SH*T OUT IT AN BEAT 67:bna :bna :bna :bna :bna :bna :bna :bna :bna :bna

[jdsgallops]

Snow where and when do you want to meet to pick up the cam? I will be staying in Sturgeon Bay and I should be up on the 9th and leaving on the 21st. I am open to anytime but the 13th. Just let me know what day will work best for ya.

[67Mike]

Snow is in Mexico now on his honeymoon.

He will be back on Sept 2nd

[jdsgallops]

Thanks Mike.

[jdsgallops]

Snow still looking to find out when we can get together to pick the cam up. Let me know, I leave Sunday morning brite and early.

[snowseeker]

Any day after 5:30 PM is good for me. Sunday all day works for me too.

Are you flying or driving?

Let me know what day is good for you and where you would like to meet, (if you know a place in point or plover).

[jdsgallops]

Snow I am driving up, as I am moving all my stuff down here, finally. So I am hoping we can meet in Green Bay. Sunday the 14th would work fine for me, I will probably be in Green bay anyway visiting friends. If that works let me know. West side anywhere near 29 will be fine.

[snowseeker]

Sure, let me know about what time and where (something fairly easy to find)

[jdsgallops]

Pm or e-mail me with your phone number and I will call you when I have a better idea of what I am doing that day. Talk to you then.

[snowseeker]

I have a cam, thanks much jdsgallops!!

[jdsgallops]

No problem Andy. To bad it was raining I was really hoping to get a look at the Honda. Maybe next time I am up we will have to have a WSD get together. Or I will at least have to head out to point and check out some rides.

[snowseeker]

Sounds like a plan to me! Let everyone lnow when you are coming up again. We'll have a good time!