Wednesdays

[bohn]

I see there gone from the schedule, and only high school night for test and tune. I for one am not gonna pay $15 for three runs, and chances are i won't even get three in. I really think there should be a wednesday or another day once a month scheduled for test and tune.

[bohn]

I can't believe i'm the only one who doesn't like this. I for one would like to go to the track more than just once a month for RSD.

[1SLO5.0]

I would like to see wednesday nights for test and tune too. Hell, I'd like to see WIR open every night like GLD is. That would leave many nights for me to test and tune. But it looks like we are the only ones. Randy or Dan will have to chime in here and explain. The way I understand it, wednesday nights didn't go as expected and the track was loosing money. On the average they would need to see about 100 cars roll thru the gate to break even I think. I don't know for sure so hopefully Randy or Dan will shed some light on this. All I know is I've seen GLD during the week on test and tune nights and every time I was there the pits were alot emptier than WIR's pits on a Wednesday night. GLD is bringing in money. I wonder if the ambulance fees have anything to do with it???? I think GLD has there own ambulance.

[randy a]

HI! Idid not get anything from WIR so i dont know anything...... :tree: I know Wednesdays were a losing deal.[30-50 cars]When I talked to Roger I told him IF he was going to do test & tune on Fridays he would have to make sure that racers got there 3 time runs in a timely manner!!!!! SOOOO... Lets see what happens...... Randy

[badass88gt]

I'd like to know why the pits cant be paved. There must be a pretty good reason not to do it?

[randy a]

BIG $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[lazyass]

its not that big man, the pits aren't even that big at wir, its like an out of town grocery store

[1SLO5.0]

BIG $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Has Roger gotten any estimates yet Randy? I was talking to Dan about it a while back and told him to just pave from the staging lanes to the return road for now and then do the rest as money permits.

[Jim]

if there is no other dates for test and tune it will hurt rsd i think. many people sat in the lanes last year during rsd that had races set up.

[randy a]

Hi Jim I agree with you,but I am only a track employee. Racers that know me, talk to me about things they would liked changed and I can talk to Roger about it to see what he thinks! :dunno:

[gutlass454]

WIR could use lots of improvements all we can do is hope though.. I myself would still like to see open hour come back that was great for a quick test a tune to get a baseline to race but we lost that too... If Wednesdays were not profitable why not open the track early on fridays or sat when the crues are already there and pay extra to test and tune?? Then maybe more would stay to race too.. Money is not real a big issue here for us when it comes to using the track I don't think when you consider how much we put in our cars.. But do have to give WIR some credit the RSD was a great improvment.. And I do belive they try there best, but wish they would listen to the racers more since we are the ones who use the track and are there all the time and if were happy the track would make more $$$$ I'm sure.

[bohn]

does anybody know how much it would be to rent the track? Maybe if we all get together and pitch in some money we could rent it for a day or acouple hours for a WSD test and tune day.

[Jim]

hey randy....

since the wednesday deal looks to be dead maybe we could get roger to open that 1 hour back up for open qualifying on sat. like gutlass454 mentioned.....that would be welcomed by many racers.

[TuffEnuff]

....hmmmmmm...... :trout: Have a fish.

[badass88gt]

So now theyre gonna have all these TNT guys coming on RSD nights since Fridays are the only test nights? Thats gonna drive away alot of poeple from RSD maybe.

I can't believe paving the pits would be that tough. Have all teh racers chip in, I bet the majority of teh regulars would be more than happy to kick in $100 each to help pave the pits, hell I know I would if I was a regular.

[YAV8]

Whats the big deal about TNT on the RSD nights. I have been there most of the nights and saw nothing different then a bunch of wantabees going down the track. From what I saw most of the cars were having a lot of fun. THATS WHAT THEY PAID FOR. I enjoyed having my friends and there friends run. They would not have come up if it were not for the RSD. They made passes and had a great time. Like 99% of the people up there they don't have the BALLS ABILLITY OR EQUIPMENT to run saturdays. If weds were so good for test and tune then how come no some show up. Ever one has something to say about how things should be run. Show up spend your money and have fun. The pits have never been paved SO WHAT pluck your head out of your ass and be thankful that we have a place to race. I always hear a lot of talk about how good they are. Come up on Saturdays put a number on the window strap in and be prepared to have your ASS handed to you. Think you got what it takes. I am there every saturday and most fridays. I love drag racing. IF you can't run the numbers stay in the back ground and complain about everyting. If you got what it takes bring it on. YAV8

[bohn]

I can see your point Ralph, but i don't like bracket racing. Its no fun to me to go to the track make two passes than sit around for 6 hours to make another two then end up breaking out and then go home. I wasted my whole day to make 4 passes. Atleast at a wednesday i could go and make a minimum of 10 within acouple hours and do some tuning to see if i can go faster without the fear of breaking out and having to go home.

I believe drag racing is lining up two cars and seeing you is faster. No head starts, no running against the clock, just run what ya brung and hope you brought enough.

[1SLO5.0]

The problem I have with test and tune on RSD nights is the guys that think they are smart and get into the street race lane so they can get a time slip. Then guys that come to street race like myself have to sit and wait for all of the test and tuners that are there just to get a time slip. That's fine if you want to race your friends, that's what the event is for. When they say "time runs will be shut down at 8pm" that doesn't mean find someone you don't know or care to race and jump into the street race lanes after 8pm just so you can get a time slip. That low balls the guys that come just to street race. This year street race lanes will not get timeslip (that is my understanding anyway) which should weed out the abusers.

[badass88gt]

most of the cars were having a lot of fun. THATS WHAT THEY PAID FOR. I enjoyed having my friends and there friends run.


While I agree with this 110%, the fact is RSD isnt supposed to be for TNT. They shut the lanes down early, and cater to the street racers. If you race saturday nights, how many runs are you gonna get, 3, 4? Unless you go rounds, which I wouldnt do. I could care less about bracket racing, consistancy, dial ins. I want to go as fast as a possibly can, not hit the brakes at the end so I dont break out. It has been said over and over, if you come to RSD to run time runs, youre gonna be disappointed. So then when do you run them? GLD has a gazillion days a year to test, and now WIR has taken away Wed. I can see people getting mad now cuz if its like Darrell said, Street race lanes wont even get a slip. Thats gonna turn away the testing guys, and they have no other time to run.

[YAV8]

I think some people miss the point of bracket racing. For those that are uninformed you can go as fast as you want or what ever money will buy you. It called a number on the window. If you can't run the number don't try to SB you way out of it. 1 you didn't spend the money to go fast. 2 you don't know what your doing 3 you should be bench racing with you buddies. Next get your rig to HOOK please don't come over and cry on my shoulder about spinning tires. I watch a great group of people that run on 10 wide and smaller with some modifictions it can be done. They also go a lot faster then most of you will ever run. Last try to leave befor the light goes GREEN. If you need some help with reading your time slip stop over I will try my best to make you a better DRAG RACER. I will be up to all the RSD to watch and have a group of five of six people run. High school nights I will be up with my great god child and nephues. I love being at the track and watching and racing. Some one get me out of this black room. I have the need for speed. If you are bored on saturdays stop over we always have something on the grill and theres always shade under the tree.

[1SLO5.0]

I think some people miss the point of bracket racing. For those that are uninformed you can go as fast as you want or what ever money will buy you. It called a number on the window. If you can't run the number don't try to SB you way out of it. 1 you didn't spend the money to go fast. 2 you don't know what your doing 3 you should be bench racing with you buddies. Next get your rig to HOOK please don't come over and cry on my shoulder about spinning tires. I watch a great group of people that run on 10 wide and smaller with some modifictions it can be done. They also go a lot faster then most of you will ever run. Last try to leave befor the light goes GREEN. If you need some help with reading your time slip stop over I will try my best to make you a better DRAG RACER. I will be up to all the RSD to watch and have a group of five of six people run. High school nights I will be up with my great god child and nephues. I love being at the track and watching and racing. Some one get me out of this black room. I have the need for speed. If you are bored on saturdays stop over we always have something on the grill and theres always shade under the tree.

I don't miss the point of bracket racing. I just prefer a heads up race or a street style race. I'm not taking anything away from you Ralph or any other bracket racer. I just prefer a different type of racing. Thats my opinion and I'm entitled to it.

1. I have spent the money to go fast. 2. I am by no means a professional drag racer but I assure you I know what I'm doing. 3. I do bench race with my buddies often. My car hooks just fine on a 28x10.5 tire. I will also reserve a lane for you any time you want to take me to school in drag racing......heads up, not bracket racing.

[badass88gt]

I don't miss the point of bracket racing. I just prefer a heads up race or a street style race. I'm not taking anything away from you Ralph or any other bracket racer. I just prefer a different type of racing.


This is exactly what I was gonna type too. I jus think there needs to be a time for T&T, thats all. Brackets arent a very good time to try and dial everything in.

[YAV8]

Thanks for the reply you are right not everyone likes bracket racing. I will agree that WEDs. were a good night. Now if only all the people that wanted to TNT showed up I am sure Roger would have made some money and it would be open. RSD are a big hit not only with the cars but also it fun to watch. IF you take to much away from the average joe he will not come back. Rember with him comes several of his friends just like I do. That what pays the bills. Several people that want all the lanes for there own use will just not happen. How do you know if any improvements you made during the week helped your ET. That what RSD should be about. Race your bud and see if you have any improvements. Talk smart and have a good time. Remember the guy with the 16 second ride was YOU only a few years back. Now with a lot of money and time and tuning he is where you are at TODAY. The guys that pay the bill are not the 10-15 real fast car it the guy that like to racing and are now doing it in a place that SAFE.

[ntastng]

I just got into this last year, and being new it kind of sucked sitting in the staging lanes for hours at a time on a RSD night. Don't get me wrong I had a blast but I was really looking forward to going during the week this year a few times just to practice so that I can test and tune and get more consistant for the RSD nights.

[UPdragracer]

:smoker: Well I went to the extreme of moving from upper michigan to greenbay so I can race every weekend .
I most likely will not do much tuning to my bike this year I'm just going to concentrate on driving {racing skills }
I'm shooting for first place in streetbike . and hope to move on to probike the following year . due to my work schedule I will just make it to the track in time for one time run before races start :chairshot
But every other weekend I have off so If I need practice I can do it on RSD and highschool nights .
I will also be helping my girlfreinds daughter race in the friday night teen challenge . I think that it is going to be a great summer of drag racin for me . and I look forward to seeing all you guy's at the track :smoker:

[SonicBoost]

I went to every wed nite event. I prefered these events b/c you could get in as many runs as you wanted to get in. It wasnt packed w/ all the b.s. RSD is packed w/. RSD sucks if you wanna race b/c to many ppl go just for the TNT, not the Street Races part. The damn snowmobiles piss me off too. WTF do they getta run at RSD for, waste of my ☺☺☺☺in time, go find snow.

If RSD takes away the fact the street racing lanes dont get slips, i deff wont run. I go to RSD b/c it takes the street racing off the streets and lets me race legally. I LOVE THAT. But, the main reason for me going to the track is, I like to know what I run. I'm not some super fast V8 muscle head like most of you seem, but I learn from my slips. I can also compair slips w/ a different time to see what my new mods are doing for my car.

But waiting 3 hours between runs b/c TNT and stupid lil annoying JR drag cars that run the 1/8 mile, stupid snowmobiles and other crap thats NOT STREETABLE SHOULD GO HOME, COME BACK A DIFFERENT DAY. RSD is Real Street Racing, Cars that should be out Street Racing on a friday nite, not freakin trailored drag cars.

I really liked going Wed nite, b/c thats when my friends and I would go to run each other and get slips. And not have to worry about waitin 6 years between runs. I'm really dissapointed that they got rid of it.

And as far as the paving the pits goes, it doesn't affect me. I dont run Slicks that are gonna be pickin up rocks and shit, but i think it needs to be paved. I hear alot of guys complainin about and it also gives WIR a cheap feeling. I know a lot of ppl that wont even bother to go there b/c WIR seems like they could give a rats ass, GLD is a much better track, and it doesnt bother me driving down there.

[badass88gt]

I agree. Now that my car is done, I wouldve taken advantage of the Wed night thing. Good point with the snowmobiles, what are they running at RSD for???

[badass88gt]

Are fridays really that bad? How many runs do you get, how long are they open, and how's the prep?

[clayton bigsby]

The damn snowmobiles piss me off too. WTF do they getta run at RSD for, waste of my ☺☺☺☺in time, go find snow.

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Priceless!!!

[Slow Ride]

Are fridays really that bad? How many runs do you get, how long are they open, and how's the prep?

I've yet to get 3 runs on a Friday. Usually 2 sometimes 1

[badass88gt]

Really? How long are they open? Is it just that busy?

[bohn]

I've yet to get 3 runs on a Friday. Usually 2 sometimes 1


Yeap, i got two in one night after sitting in line for about 2 hours. I went to go for my third and they said it was to late and they were closing. They said the next time i came i could get an extra one in. I came back acouple weeks later and got one run in after about 3 hours, then they closed and said the same thing that i'd get an extra one in next time.

I guess when the snow melts i'll just have to go find an empty backroad like the good old days for some TNT.

[badass88gt]

I guess when the snow melts i'll just have to go find an empty backroad like the good old days for some TNT.


Come on up here, we go tthe hookup! :dance:

[bohn]

Come on up here, we go tthe hookup! :dance:


I might just have to do that...sounds like you guys got it going on up there. Theres not to many empty secluded roads around here.

[Jim]

I went to every wed nite event. I prefered these events b/c you could get in as many runs as you wanted to get in. It wasnt packed w/ all the b.s. RSD is packed w/. RSD sucks if you wanna race b/c to many ppl go just for the TNT, not the Street Races part. The damn snowmobiles piss me off too. WTF do they getta run at RSD for, waste of my ☺☺☺☺in time, go find snow.

If RSD takes away the fact the street racing lanes dont get slips, i deff wont run. I go to RSD b/c it takes the street racing off the streets and lets me race legally. I LOVE THAT. But, the main reason for me going to the track is, I like to know what I run. I'm not some super fast V8 muscle head like most of you seem, but I learn from my slips. I can also compair slips w/ a different time to see what my new mods are doing for my car.

But waiting 3 hours between runs b/c TNT and stupid lil annoying JR drag cars that run the 1/8 mile, stupid snowmobiles and other crap thats NOT STREETABLE SHOULD GO HOME, COME BACK A DIFFERENT DAY. RSD is Real Street Racing, Cars that should be out Street Racing on a friday nite, not freakin trailored drag cars.

I really liked going Wed nite, b/c thats when my friends and I would go to run each other and get slips. And not have to worry about waitin 6 years between runs. I'm really dissapointed that they got rid of it.

And as far as the paving the pits goes, it doesn't affect me. I dont run Slicks that are gonna be pickin up rocks and shit, but i think it needs to be paved. I hear alot of guys complainin about and it also gives WIR a cheap feeling. I know a lot of ppl that wont even bother to go there b/c WIR seems like they could give a rats ass, GLD is a much better track, and it doesnt bother me driving down there.


let me get this straight.........


you don't like:

*snowmobiles
*jr. dragsters
*V8 cars

you should go open a track and only let your ricer friends race at it. but, what do i know? i'm just a dumb V8 muscle head.

[1SLO5.0]

let me get this straight.........


you don't like:

*snowmobiles
*jr. dragsters
*V8 cars

you should go open a track and only let your ricer friends race at it. but, what do i know? i'm just a dumb V8 muscle head.


right on brotha!!!!

[ntastng]

It wouldn't be bad if they would open the track up earlier on friday. I know last year on RSD nights there were plenty of people waiting in the pits before 5. The track doesn't get too busy in regards to RSD til after 8 but you also lose a half hour to 45 min of racing before that because the workers aren't able to eat in the tower.

[badass88gt]

Thats a whole other crock of shit right there... the lunch break.

[badass88gt]

Thats a whole other crock of shit right there... the lunch break.

What would happen at GLD RSD if they announced "We're shutting down for 30 minutes to eat". I'm sure everyone would go back to th epits and grab a lawn chair.

[SonicBoost]

let me get this straight.........


you don't like:

*snowmobiles
*jr. dragsters
*V8 cars

you should go open a track and only let your ricer friends race at it. but, what do i know? i'm just a dumb V8 muscle head.

yes apparently u r a dumb v8 muscle head.

The V8 cars that I like are the streetable ones, not the stupid ass v8's that take 3 years to start, run down the drag strip and barely make it back. go sit on there lil stupid trailor they came in on, wait 2 hours to go sit inline for another 3 hours b/c all there hick buddies are there. I like cars that can be driven to the track, raced down it a couple times then drive to the club afterwords. Its street racing, not full out competition racing for points/series. its to get ppl off the streets and to race legally.

[badass88gt]

ROFLMAO, This is about to get funny me thinks......

[SonicBoost]

me too... i'm just having a lil fun w/ this, whats life w/o argument. boring, thats what! i really need to go to bed tho... its been a long nite. and you guys are prolly just gettin up ; )

[badass88gt]

Ive been up all night. I see Jimmy online.....care to respond buddy??? :showtits:

[Wasted Income]

yes apparently u r a dumb v8 muscle head.

The V8 cars that I like are the streetable ones, not the stupid ass v8's that take 3 years to start, run down the drag strip and barely make it back. go sit on there lil stupid trailor they came in on, wait 2 hours to go sit inline for another 3 hours b/c all there hick buddies are there. I like cars that can be driven to the track, raced down it a couple times then drive to the club afterwords. Its street racing, not full out competition racing for points/series. its to get ppl off the streets and to race legally.

Wow...

So you think most of the guys here can't buy a stock WRX and hurtle the turd down the 1320?

BTW,

teh Hicks > teh Rice :chnsw:

[1SLO5.0]

yes apparently u r a dumb v8 muscle head.

The V8 cars that I like are the streetable ones, not the stupid ass v8's that take 3 years to start, run down the drag strip and barely make it back. go sit on there lil stupid trailor they came in on, wait 2 hours to go sit inline for another 3 hours b/c all there hick buddies are there. I like cars that can be driven to the track, raced down it a couple times then drive to the club afterwords. Its street racing, not full out competition racing for points/series. its to get ppl off the streets and to race legally.


I'm a "dumb v8 muscle head". My car almost always arrives on a trailer because I, unlike you have the power to break shit. I come prepared to the track. What is enough power to break parts? Well, I could spot your 13 second turd out 20 car lengths an even let you leave first and still blow by you at the 8th mile marker. My car is registered and plated. I put on alot of street miles in a summer. I can drive it anywhere. Wanna race?

[Jim]

yes apparently u r a dumb v8 muscle head.

The V8 cars that I like are the streetable ones, not the stupid ass v8's that take 3 years to start, run down the drag strip and barely make it back. go sit on there lil stupid trailor they came in on, wait 2 hours to go sit inline for another 3 hours b/c all there hick buddies are there. I like cars that can be driven to the track, raced down it a couple times then drive to the club afterwords. Its street racing, not full out competition racing for points/series. its to get ppl off the streets and to race legally.

when are we gonna get down? i'll drive anywhere you want to, how ever many miles you would like to, to any place you want to race. then i'll DRAG your pile of shit all the way down any track you want to go to.......all N/A against your poweradder

let me know, i'm up for it...............and you better bring your wallet.

[SonicBoost]

rite now! oh but i'm sorry my big bad 80's v8 w/ slicks cant come out in the weather. i wish i was cool and could buy a cheap ass rustang and pick on people who buy imports cuz those are junk. Yeah well i didnt buy my car to let it sit in the garage and drive it on nice days only... i bought it b/c its practicle and not my race car. its my daily car and i'm gonna go drive around and have fun in the snow, while ur car sits in the garage and all u can do is look at it.

if u honestly wanna race me, I DONT CARE! Your car will beat me, if racing me makes u feel better about ur self and allows you to sleep better at nite, then lets do it. but lets not wait til spring, lets do it rite now. and my pile of shit btw is worth 10x's more than ur car, i mean u could have at least bought a GT, they look better than the pos lx u got in ur avatar ;)

shit talkin is fun isn't it.

[Dirty Vegas]

I'm a "dumb v8 muscle head". My car almost always arrives on a trailer because I, unlike you have the power to break shit. I come prepared to the track. What is enough power to break parts? Well, I could spot your 13 second turd out 20 car lengths an even let you leave first and still blow by you at the 8th mile marker. My car is registered and plated. I put on alot of street miles in a summer. I can drive it anywhere. Wanna race?

Can my 13 second turd have 20 cars and the bust? :loveyou:

[BrettRT]

Tyler makes some valid points, and some funnyones.

1. Snowmobiles and JR drag cars do not belong at an RSD event. End of story. There is no debating that. If there were to be a test and tune night, then that's it, they go there. Not to a REAL STREET, hence the world STREET, event.

In my opinion, if you're car doesn't see street action, it shouldn't be there. You can TNT, you can bracket race, but if you don't drive that thing on the street why the hell are you at a legal street racing event?

Hick or a Ricer... how about being neither. :D

[Jim]

rite now! oh but i'm sorry my big bad 80's v8 w/ slicks cant come out in the weather. i wish i was cool and could buy a cheap ass rustang and pick on people who buy imports cuz those are junk. Yeah well i didnt buy my car to let it sit in the garage and drive it on nice days only... i bought it b/c its practicle and not my race car. its my daily car and i'm gonna go drive around and have fun in the snow, while ur car sits in the garage and all u can do is look at it.

if u honestly wanna race me, I DONT CARE! Your car will beat me, if racing me makes u feel better about ur self and allows you to sleep better at nite, then lets do it. but lets not wait til spring, lets do it rite now. and my pile of shit btw is worth 10x's more than ur car, i mean u could have at least bought a GT, they look better than the pos lx u got in ur avatar ;)

shit talkin is fun isn't it.

that is exactly the response i figured i'd get. :fiddle:

and if you wanna do it right now i guess i could always pull you around in the snow with my daily driver too. :nanhump:

[UPdragracer]

:ballkick: I bet one of those sleds would love to race against a street car :ballkick:
I myself love V-8 cars , I have a inline 4 cylinder and only 2 wheels and I have a great time at the RSD's
I really don't care how many runs I get as long as I get a few . I like watching the trash talk and putting a whoopin on other street bikes . :popcorn:

[1SLO5.0]

rite now! oh but i'm sorry my big bad 80's v8 w/ slicks cant come out in the weather. i wish i was cool and could buy a cheap ass rustang and pick on people who buy imports cuz those are junk. Yeah well i didnt buy my car to let it sit in the garage and drive it on nice days only... i bought it b/c its practicle and not my race car. its my daily car and i'm gonna go drive around and have fun in the snow, while ur car sits in the garage and all u can do is look at it.

if u honestly wanna race me, I DONT CARE! Your car will beat me, if racing me makes u feel better about ur self and allows you to sleep better at nite, then lets do it. but lets not wait til spring, lets do it rite now. and my pile of shit btw is worth 10x's more than ur car, i mean u could have at least bought a GT, they look better than the pos lx u got in ur avatar ;)

shit talkin is fun isn't it.


I would be willing to bet the bank that the appraisel for my car is way more than what your car is new. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but when you talk like a jackass punk you will get eaten alive by everyone. I'll race you right now. I'll bring out my Suburban and lay waste to that little rice burner.


Can my 13 second turd have 20 cars and the bust? :loveyou:


13 second turd my ass! :fro:

[BrettRT]

little rice burner.

Nothing amuses me more than a rednecks definition of rice.
:boobs:

[1SLO5.0]

Tyler makes some valid points, and some funnyones.

1. Snowmobiles and JR drag cars do not belong at an RSD event. End of story. There is no debating that. If there were to be a test and tune night, then that's it, they go there. Not to a REAL STREET, hence the world STREET, event.

In my opinion, if you're car doesn't see street action, it shouldn't be there. You can TNT, you can bracket race, but if you don't drive that thing on the street why the hell are you at a legal street racing event?

Hick or a Ricer... how about being neither. :D


I agree with that. Junior dragsters and snowmobiles don't street race so they should pick a different day to test and tune. I also agree that if the cars don't see street action, they shouldn't be there. I don't think the street action part is as big of a deal as the snowmobile and JR dragster issue. I only seen a small amount of cars that streetability was a question at the WIR events. Those damn snowmobiles and JR dragsters hog up space in the staging lanes. We don't go to test and tune nights to street race so they shouldn't be coming to street race night to test and tune.

[1SLO5.0]

Nothing amuses me more than a rednecks definition of rice.
:boobs:


I'm far from a redneck Brett. I don't have a problem with all imports but when some import driver comes on here running his mouth and sounding like a complete jackass, I'm going to throw it right back at him. You on the other hand came on here and talked like a civilized human being and I didn't give you any shit at all.

[BrettRT]

I like your license plate. :)

That was more of a general definition Darrell, I think I just used you as a motive to post it.

Cmon now, there's no more RSD so the shit talking has to happen over winter, Ty means half the crap he says, and if not its the Internet and we all know who's faster so no hard feelings.

PS: Mustangs suck :D

[badass88gt]

Wow. Hey, I'll take some of that WRX in the winter. When, where, and more importantly, how much $$$. No power adder. Say when big guy.

[1SLO5.0]

PS: Mustangs suck :D


Yes they do suck! :D

[SonicBoost]

I like your license plate. :)

That was more of a general definition Darrell, I think I just used you as a motive to post it.

Cmon now, there's no more RSD so the shit talking has to happen over winter, Ty means half the crap he says, and if not its the Internet and we all know who's faster so no hard feelings.

PS: Mustangs suck :D

Sir Bertus is Correct. I just like having fun w/ u guys. These winter months are boring me and I cant wait til the track opens back up again. And when the time comes where I meet u, see ur car, I dont bash it. I like to see effort put into cars, and by the looks of it both of u have nice cars. Its not just some shell picked up w/ a large motor thrown in w/ nos. I dont like primered/multi colored body panels. I like clean looks and goo fast goodies, I'm just givin u guys a hard time cuz i know you guys dont like lil o' ricers like me ;)

[1SLO5.0]

I do have respect for some imports. A friend of mine put down just over 500 hp at the wheels with his WRX.


I don't have multi colored body panels either... :bash:

[Dave Bandt]

Well here's my whole take on the WIR deal from a little different perspective. I was there about 4 times last summer.....cuz i moved down here so late in the year and didn't finish the car until after that. One time when i was there they treated me well and let me make quite a few passes. The next time i got shit for runs. The 3rd time....same thing....and same for the 4th. WIR doesn't cater to the guy wanting to test. I have been there on the test nights and the HS nights and track sucks ass because they don't prep it well. But then again, on those nights they aren't catering to fast cars, so i don't expect it either. In general WIR does not target high HP cars on small tires, and i'm aware of that too. Every time i go to WIR I go there knowing that they cater to the bracket crowd and i probably won't get many runs. And though i may not like that because i don't fall in that category I don't bitch and complain about it. It used to cost me $300 a weekend at BIR to test on Friday & Saturday, and run a bracket class on Sunday. WIR charges $25 for one day, which is about 1/4 th price by my math. I think you guys should count your blessings. If you don't like their program go somewhere else.....that's what i do.

And I agree that Mustangs are junk. There is nothing more sleek than a foreign pile of shit with a 10" diameter muffler and a wing resembling a shopping cart handle buzzing down the street like a pissed off swarm of bees. Now that is cool. And to think that my engine at idle with 4 plug wires pulled off made more HP than one of them at full boost. Silly me! What was i thinking? I'm converting. Anyone want to buy an 05 Mustang body? ROFLMFAO!!!

[bohn]

I have very little respect for import guys who talk shit but can't back it up. I got $$ that says my POS S10 can woop that WRX and just to make it fair i'll give you 5 and the hit.

Just don't cry when my $3000 beater woops up on your $25,000 WRX.

And since you brought up snowmobiles, i got $200 that says my little 600cc can beat that WRX. Its snowing right now...you got AWD !!!!!. Lets go !!!!

[badass88gt]

And since you brought up snowmobiles, i got $200 that says my little 600cc can beat that WRX. Its snowing right now...you got AWD !!!!!. Lets go !!!!



Ooh, yeah I didnt even thing of that. Mines only 583cc, I want a crack at the AWD too :jackin:

[Slow Ride]

Its not just some shell picked up w/ a large motor thrown in w/ nos. I dont like primered/multi colored body panels.

You are REALLY going to hate my ride then. It's everything you dislike about us redneck,hick hillbillies and our POS slow cars.

[kamu]

This is what I have to pay when I go to florida and race my dads car on one of the best tracks in the U.S. Gainsville Raceway Park. I will be there on March 30th getting some runs in.

Wednesday Night and Saturday Night Test-N-Tune
$15 Car and Driver $5 Spectators

Gates open at 6:30pm Run from 7pm until 11pm (weather permitting)

Check schedule for dates

Great for beginners or for tuning your vehicle

Open test and tune for street or race vehicles

Full tree will be used. Pro Tree upon request

Go to this site if you want to see some good prices and some good rules for the Friday Night "Street Legal Drags" :bna

http://www.gainesvilleraceway.com/apcm/templates/trackinfo.asp?articleid=2525&zoneid=69

[SonicBoost]

I've met ^ slow ride ^ at the track last year, good guy. I think its funny how u guys take this stuff so serious. My main point was about what this thread is about... the wed nite racing... I'm dissapointed thats its gone b/c it was the best nite to run, but its understandable b/c no one went. I was just arguing that Sleds/JR Drag things shouldn't be at RSD. And u guys don't just see all points. Like Darrell had said, he actually drives his car on the street. I give him props... its the cars that only see the tracks that are gay and wasting my time at Real Street Drags.

And I dont give a shit if all your cars/sleds/trucks grandma's sisters sons car is faster, big deal. You know what, theres always someone faster out there, so i dont care. I race cars that I think are in my class. If racing was all i ever did, i would have boughten an LS1 camaro. Which I honestly was looking at, but then I would need a winter ride, so I just opted to gettin something quick, year round, and something that still looks good.

As far as for callin me a RICER, Go ahead do it. If u have ever seen my car, you know i'm exactly not that. Yes my exhaust is rather large, but its also not just some stupid huge muffler welded on to where the stock was. Its full exhaust, and it most certainly does not sound anything like a pissed off swarm of bumble bees. My car has excelent tone, and if u just sat and listened to it you would agree its not a Ricer tone. I dont have no large shopping cart wing, its stock. My car is cleanly done, call me a RICER, b/c I honestly dont give a rats ass what u think of my car. Its my car, I like the way it is, and i'm sure u like they way your car is.

Just basically skip all that stuff, dont read it, call me a ricer and ask me to race, b/c thats what the next 10 posts will be.

[Wasted Income]

Ricer.

[SonicBoost]

Thanks Jeff, :loveyou: :budyou:

[Wasted Income]

Anytime buddy. :nana:

[00Evan]

Sir Bertus is Correct. I just like having fun w/ u guys. These winter months are boring me and I cant wait til the track opens back up again. And when the time comes where I meet u, see ur car, I dont bash it. I like to see effort put into cars, and by the looks of it both of u have nice cars. Its not just some shell picked up w/ a large motor thrown in w/ nos. I dont like primered/multi colored body panels. I like clean looks and goo fast goodies, I'm just givin u guys a hard time cuz i know you guys dont like lil o' ricers like me ;)

False, I remember a big group of you guys sitting in the stands at RSD making fun of all the muscle going down the track. You guys have no respect for the countless hours and hours of hard work that goes into these guy's cars, give them some ☺☺☺☺ing respect. Then you got mad when I called you out and asked you what the ☺☺☺☺ you guys drove that made you so special as to be able to talk shit about 9 and 10 second cars? Then you got all mad and got your undies in a bundle and started a big internet war with me.



To you "v8 guys" I give you guys a lot of credit, i've seen first hand how much time and effort you guys put into your cars and you have some badass rides to show for it. I may drive an import (yeah rip on me all you want) but I respect you guys, perhaps the same respect can be shown for us non idiot import drivers who dont post stuff about how a car should be able to be driven to the club (OK Brian Spilner).

[1SLO5.0]

False, I remember a big group of you guys sitting in the stands at RSD making fun of all the muscle going down the track. You guys have no respect for the countless hours and hours of hard work that goes into these guy's cars, give them some ☺☺☺☺ing respect. Then you got mad when I called you out and asked you what the ☺☺☺☺ you guys drove that made you so special as to be able to talk shit about 9 and 10 second cars? Then you got all mad and got your undies in a bundle and started a big internet war with me.



To you "v8 guys" I give you guys a lot of credit, i've seen first hand how much time and effort you guys put into your cars and you have some badass rides to show for it. I may drive an import (yeah rip on me all you want) but I respect you guys, perhaps the same respect can be shown for us non idiot import drivers who dont post stuff about how a car should be able to be driven to the club (OK Brian Spilner).




There are no 9 or 10 second cars here. We all have 12 and 13 second cars..


Brian Spilner is super cool!

[00Evan]

There are no 9 or 10 second cars here. We all have 12 and 13 second cars..


Brian Spilner is super cool!


Sorry, i forgot, everyone has slow stock junk :spinem:

[Wasted Income]

OO, what caused you to come out of your shell? Haven't heard from you in a few months... :geek:

[mistowomofo]

Brian Spilner is super cool!

w3rd, y0!

[SonicBoost]

OH HURRAY MY BUDDY IS HERE... actually if u want the one who was doing the shit talkin that nite, u'd have to talk to ur mate, tim. i was on the track unlike you. Oh i like how ur post S7 btw.

[00Evan]

Yeah thats right, i remember. then you went back and posted how you couldnt get good times cause the track was (how did you say it) "too sticky"

:wtf: :nuts:

[1SLO5.0]

How can a track be too sticky? I have never heard anyone complain about a track hooking too good. That's pretty funny stuff right there.

[BrettRT]

1. Evan, you might as well leave the Internet again. This may be the only board on the Internet that hasn't heard that you came on to a man on yahoo, thought you were going to get some, posted some half naked pics and it blew up in your face.

You are seriously lucky you were able to walk away that day at RSD. Some of us weren't there to talk Internet shit to you, we were there to beat your ass the moment you irritated us.

The V8's being ripped on were the one Ty keeps talking about, the tubbed out non street trailer queens that were at RSD.

2. The track was too sticky for my TC, I believe, however I don't know too much about those things and I know alot of you v8 guys run automatics so maybe you could help me with my dilemna. Basically I start revving up to my high stall and my tires would grip and I'd redlight. WHereas on the street and in the burnout area I could rev up all the way. What else would cause this other than the "extra stickyness?"

[00Evan]

Let's see what these badass racers from GB had to say

"Too much stick-um for my car" -SonicBoost

"yeah, sucks that you couldnt run the times you wanted cuz of the stick-um" -TitanF2T

And See post above ^^^^



Face it you guys should stick to your fast and the furious street races and club hopping.

[00Evan]

1. Evan, you might as well leave the Internet again. This may be the only board on the Internet that hasn't heard that you came on to a man on yahoo, thought you were going to get some, posted some half naked pics and it blew up in your face.


I aint ashamed of being straight. What do you do when a chick starts flirting with you? Do you assume that it must be a guy with issues and homosexual tendencies? Maybe if i knew it was a guy youd have a point. But i think the actual gayness award should go out to the guy who wanted to pretend to be a girl to try and see another guy naked. Afterall, if your read the convo, it was the guy pretending to be a girl who started flirting with me. Was it you!? probably, you seem to enjoy it a lot :928:


:flipoff2:

[UPdragracer]

:funyshit: :fight: :woot:

[badass88gt]

My head hurts from reading all that.

[00Evan]

My head hurts from reading all that.

Its ok my head hurts from taking the time to type it.


Have you dealt with Donerite? I heard the guy who owns it is an engineer? Sounds like they really know what they are doing. Im thinking of taking my car there when i get it running.

[badass88gt]

SonicBoost, I think you gotta chill. I agree with you about the sleds at RSD, they should be there. I honestly wouldnt classify you with the ricers, your car looks clean without the gayness. Ricer is also an attitude, which you seem to have a little with all the V8 racecar bashing. Alot of these shitbox racecars do drive on the street, they dont look too good, but they go like hell. You started the shit talk about the V8 guys, but you're on a Musclecar racecar website, you gotta expect to have shit talkin back at you, especially being a 4 or 6 cyl. You said it was all in fun, which is cool, we're all a bunch of cocky bastards. Everyone needs to just chill out, and have fun. ☺☺☺☺ers. You too Riceboy. :typer:

[badass88gt]

Its ok my head hurts from taking the time to type it.


Have you dealt with Donerite? I heard the guy who owns it is an engineer? Sounds like they really know what they are doing. Im thinking of taking my car there when i get it running.

Yup. He's a genious. He has a degree in (I believe) Mechanical Engineering. He was a bigwig brain at Greenheck and quit to do the auto thing. Really gets in depth with the stuff, just talking to him makes my head hurt. He's connected with alot of big name products/manufacturers, and actually helps them with R&D. Plus he's a diehard gearhead, who has built some pretty sick shit. Well worth every penny spent.

[00Evan]

Thats what i heard. Sounds like a very intelligent guy.

[1SLO5.0]

2. The track was too sticky for my TC, I believe, however I don't know too much about those things and I know alot of you v8 guys run automatics so maybe you could help me with my dilemna. Basically I start revving up to my high stall and my tires would grip and I'd redlight. WHereas on the street and in the burnout area I could rev up all the way. What else would cause this other than the "extra stickyness?"


What is happening is when you foot brake to launch, eventually the horsepower will over power the tires and either spin them or the car will move. It has nothing to do with the track being sticky. You will never get full stall out of a torque converter without a tranbrake. Foot braking still allows power to transfer to the tires. A transbrake locks first and reverse gears so now power is transferred to the tires. If you foot brake, you have to play with rpm and see how high of an rpm you can rev it to with out the car moving or tires spining. Red is a good foot braker, maybe he will chime in here and give some advice.

[BrettRT]

What is happening is when you foot brake to launch, eventually the horsepower will over power the tires and either spin them or the car will move. It has nothing to do with the track being sticky. You will never get full stall out of a torque converter without a tranbrake. Foot braking still allows power to transfer to the tires. A transbrake locks first and reverse gears so now power is transferred to the tires. If you foot brake, you have to play with rpm and see how high of an rpm you can rev it to with out the car moving or tires spining. Red is a good foot braker, maybe he will chime in here and give some advice.

But why can I rev up higher on the street vs the track?

[badass88gt]

Tires spin on street?

[UPdragracer]

:lolhit: your car is always faster on the street than at the strip :tool:

[1SLO5.0]

Tires spin on street?


most likely

[BrettRT]

most likely

Hmm I suppose it could make sense, I've never witnessed what happens when I launch on the street (always driving duh), but I supopse it could be possible that my tires are rotating slowly, whereas on the track they just grab right away...

Heh, my car's not fast at all plain and simple. Anyone want a DD? She's for sale :)

[Dave Bandt]

Hmm I suppose it could make sense, I've never witnessed what happens when I launch on the street (always driving duh), but I supopse it could be possible that my tires are rotating slowly, whereas on the track they just grab right away...

Heh, my car's not fast at all plain and simple. Anyone want a DD? She's for sale :)


"She's" for sale and has double D's? How much? :boobs:

[WICKED]

what the hell is a DD? Dodge Dakota? Dumb Dodge?

[00Evan]

what the hell is a DD? Dodge Dakota? Dumb Dodge?

:726:

I think it really does stand for Dumb Dodge.

[BrettRT]

God I ☺☺☺☺ing hate Dodge.

DD = Daily Driver

Cmon most you guys know what I'm talking about, since I know 90% of these car's on this site don't see street time :D

[Wasted Income]

God I ☺☺☺☺ing hate Dodge.

DD = Daily Driver

Cmon most you guys know what I'm talking about, since I know 90% of these car's on this site don't see street time :D

Yeah Long Hauling PowerTour this year wasn't any street time...

2500 miles in 10 days.

She may not be quick, but she's tough.

[BrettRT]

Jeff you know who I was targeting with that comment, the tubbed out girly men who show up at RSD to boost their egos :D

Street cars only!

And if I find out (since I'm new on this board) that Tuff doesn't drive his on the street, I'll be so disappointed. :)

[FURO RACECRAFT]

:lolhit: your car is always faster on the street than at the strip :tool:

I`m not going to the track anymore!

[Wasted Income]

God I ☺☺☺☺ing hate Dodge.

I know 90% of these car's on this site don't see street time :D

I think this pic fits perfect for all of the above, lol.

http://www.wisconsinstreetdominators.com/images/members/hy54dcon.jpg

[2tons0fun]

Shit...they won't even let my junk run down the track! Stupid slow mopar pos.


I am going to buy a brandy new subaru civic today!

:pimpin:

Cmon, really, who would want an intimidating v8 powered hotrod?


2tons

[FURO RACECRAFT]

I think this pic fits perfect for all of the above, lol.

http://www.wisconsinstreetdominators.com/images/members/hy54dcon.jpg


Wasted does that mean I am one 0f the 10% that does drive mine on the street??? As you can see Mijal is in that 10% also!!!!!!! LOL

[Wasted Income]

Wasted does that mean I am one 0f the 10% that does drive mine on the street??? As you can see Mijal is in that 10% also!!!!!!! LOL
Yep, hehe.

[BrettRT]

:D

I'd love to see some of the gas bills for that trip.

[SonicBoost]

i have a video of tuff drivin round the street bertus. i think i picked it up off S7 last year.

[FURO RACECRAFT]

:D

I'd love to see some of the gas bills for that trip.

FIlled it up right at the pump didnt pay anymore than the next guy at the gas station!!!!! :owned: :owned:

[1SLO5.0]

FIlled it up right at the pump didnt pay anymore than the next guy at the gas station!!!!! :owned: :owned:


And I have pictures to prove it!

http://www.wisconsinstreetdominators.com/images/members/pumpgasbarney.jpg

[68Bowtie]

I must be in that 10% too, i drive mine all the time in the summer. That is a big 10% of us that drive our cars on the street.

[Positraction Action]

I drive mine on the street, just to get to the parking lot and stand around. :lolhit: :lolhit: :kilbarne: :kilbarne:

[ntastng]

I drive mine on the street as well. I drive it over 2 hours to go racing and then drive it back home also. Mine is nowhere near some of the monsters here though. just an 83 capri with a 393.

[1SLO5.0]

I drive mine on the street as well. I drive it over 2 hours to go racing and then drive it back home also. Mine is nowhere near some of the monsters here though. just an 83 capri with a 393.


I only have a 347, you are out of my league. I need a couple spots please.

[ntastng]

um no I saw you run last year. I will let you give me spots though.

[BLUE66]

Put another hash mark on the 10% of street driven cars up for me.....Also filled @ any gas pump. Only a few more weeks to RSD's!!!!!

[Slow Ride]

um no I saw you run last year.

Now we know you are lying. LOL

[ntastng]

the first race I ever ran was against Jeff in that car when he still owned it.

[1SLO5.0]

the first race I ever ran was against Jeff in that car when he still owned it.


That's when the car was a turd............ Now it runs 13s! :dum:

[2tons0fun]

Ummm...I can fill up at the pump if I retard my timing to about 22 deg total.....does that count?

2tons

[ntastng]

That's when the car was a turd............ Now it runs 13s! :dum:


Well I really didn't do so well that first trip down the 1320. I just reved and dumped the clutch at the light. Spun like mad and got a 3.4 60 foot. That was my 1 and only 14 sec pass. This next year I am hoping to be in the mid to upper 11's.

[badass88gt]

You got some pretty high hopes!

[clayton bigsby]

thats what I hope to be running. high to mid 11's

[badass88gt]

With what?!?!?!?!


You guys are way outta my league.

[clayton bigsby]

the Whore!

[brommosauto]

boy i was hoping that my rusty regal would get into the 13s spraying it with the garden hose sounds like i am going too need two garden hoses just too keep up with you guys

[BrettRT]

mmmm good to know this isn't your trailer queen muscle board, if it's members live up to the board's name that's all the cooler to me :)

Quite easy to strike a nerve around here, eh?

[badass88gt]

Nah. Its all in fun. These guys just all think they have fast cars, and get their panties in a bunch sometimes. Ask EVERYONE here, they'll tell you all about their STREET cars......


Right guys???? :spank:

[Dave Bandt]

Yeah, I'm building a nice steet car now. Street legal is a street car right? Or is it one that's driven on the street once a year? Or 500 miles a year? Or daily? That's where a lot of these pissing contests start. Everyone has their own opinion of what a street car really is. And unlike the rest of you......everyone is entitled to MY opinion. LMAO!

[2tons0fun]

Hell, a box stock 60's muscle car with a BB and 4-gear would be considered unstreetable by today's riceish standards. With the mass-prod. of FI, AWD, power eveything vehicles, standards have changed. All of the old timers that I know seem to think that a street car means tagged, insured, and working lights. Anyhintg else is excess weight and should be removed, lol.

Street legal = street car? Maybe!☺

The new-school crowd seems to feel that a true street car can be used as a winter beater, grocery getter, etc and must have working ac, stereo, etc. In today's PC world I would hate to intimidate or hurt anyone's feeling with my rattly, loud, leaded gas-burning muscle car. It might make their pussies hurt.

If I wanted something practical, I would buy a k-car. If I wanted something that makes wild animals scatter, detroys realtionships with members of the opposite sex, and cannot be driven 500 ft in city limits without becoming the subject of an investigation by the police, I would take the route that many of the fastest cars on this site have.

Opinions, opinions....

Thanks,

2tons :greggrin: this is some funny shit btw☺!

[Dave Bandt]

Quite easy to strike a nerve around here, eh?

I think i'm going to go register on an import board and tell them all their cars aren't race cars because none can run single digits. And i'll bet i get the same greeting that you did. :argue:

Welcome to the site BTW......

[jdsgallops]

Lets get back on topic here guys. Bohn333 brought up great points(which I have brought up in the past) when I still lived up there. WIR needs a TNT night. Not a high school night with TNT cars to fill in so it can break even. Not an RSD event with TNT runs. You can't base if you should or should not open on a Wed again this year based solely on a mediocre response from the first year doing it. When I go to the track I go to race against the clock. To improve my driving skill and see what the improvements I have made on my car have done for ET. Doesn't matter if it runs 15's or 8's. Bottom line is if you read the majority of posts in this thread there is a demand for a product and the company with the corner on the market is not willing to meet that demand. Sounds like someone should come in and steal the thunder or said company should find a way to make money and provide the service being demanded. GLD has a higher price to get in during the week and can make money, or otherwise justify the cost of opening, with a smaller turn out as stated by Darrell. The only excuse for WIR to not have a true TNT day is pure laziness. No lunch breaks either That is why, McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, Taco Bell, and other restaurants have drive through windows!

[YAV8]

I think some of you have missed the point. WIR is not a drag strip only track. I know some of you might not know that they also have a Thursday race every week. Lets not forget the DAYS and NIGHTS that they run other big night stock car races. Some are on national TV some are not. I have a idea that it takes a LOT of WORK and PLANNING to pull these things off. 3-10,000 people show up the place needs cleaning and prep. Most people are slobs and can't put things in the garbage cans we have been all seen what happens after a event. Weds come around and 40-60 cars show up a full crew and safty people and all things considered. Now we here from the WINERS I would have gone. WHERE IN THE HECK WERE YOU LAST YEAR. Come to the friday night events PAY your money and RUN. If you people with fast cars think you are the only ones that should run RENT THE TRACK you self and then you can talk to your little group. The only reason your there is because there a LOT OF PEOPLE and you can show OFF. If you need to test and tune go to DA GROVE I have been ther many times. I always have fun new cars to see and new people to meet. The track is always the same one step up from a gravel road with water on it. I don't care I still like TNT and making passes. I will be in the way at the high school and RSD making passes. When I pay my money I get to run even with the BIG DOGS. Quit complaining we still have a place to race close to home.

[Dirty Vegas]

I think some of you have missed the point. WIR is not a drag strip only track. I know some of you might not know that they also have a Thursday race every week. Lets not forget the DAYS and NIGHTS that they run other big night stock car races. Some are on national TV some are not. I have a idea that it takes a LOT of WORK and PLANNING to pull these things off. 3-10,000 people show up the place needs cleaning and prep. Most people are slobs and can't put things in the garbage cans we have been all seen what happens after a event. Weds come around and 40-60 cars show up a full crew and safty people and all things considered. Now we here from the WINERS I would have gone. WHERE IN THE HECK WERE YOU LAST YEAR. Come to the friday night events PAY your money and RUN. If you people with fast cars think you are the only ones that should run RENT THE TRACK you self and then you can talk to your little group. The only reason your there is because there a LOT OF PEOPLE and you can show OFF. If you need to test and tune go to DA GROVE I have been ther many times. I always have fun new cars to see and new people to meet. The track is always the same one step up from a gravel road with water on it. I don't care I still like TNT and making passes. I will be in the way at the high school and RSD making passes. When I pay my money I get to run even with the BIG DOGS. Quit complaining we still have a place to race close to home.

Would you be willing to "Street" race at RSD? :dance:

[FURO RACECRAFT]

Would you be willing to "Street" race at RSD? :dance:


Hey DV< I`ll take a heads up race with you!!! :hello: :hello:

[Dirty Vegas]

Hey DV< I`ll take a heads up race with you!!! :hello: :hello:

If you are willing to stay on nuts, I might be willing to strap a cannon on my car and see what happens. Hopefully I'll get the LS1 sold before the first RSD.

[1SLO5.0]

I think some of you have missed the point. WIR is not a drag strip only track. I know some of you might not know that they also have a Thursday race every week. Lets not forget the DAYS and NIGHTS that they run other big night stock car races. Some are on national TV some are not. I have a idea that it takes a LOT of WORK and PLANNING to pull these things off. 3-10,000 people show up the place needs cleaning and prep. Most people are slobs and can't put things in the garbage cans we have been all seen what happens after a event. Weds come around and 40-60 cars show up a full crew and safty people and all things considered. Now we here from the WINERS I would have gone. WHERE IN THE HECK WERE YOU LAST YEAR. Come to the friday night events PAY your money and RUN. If you people with fast cars think you are the only ones that should run RENT THE TRACK you self and then you can talk to your little group. The only reason your there is because there a LOT OF PEOPLE and you can show OFF. If you need to test and tune go to DA GROVE I have been ther many times. I always have fun new cars to see and new people to meet. The track is always the same one step up from a gravel road with water on it. I don't care I still like TNT and making passes. I will be in the way at the high school and RSD making passes. When I pay my money I get to run even with the BIG DOGS. Quit complaining we still have a place to race close to home.


I don't recall anyone saying that only fast cars should run. Where did you get that from? As far as "being in the way" at RSD, be prepared to have the time run lanes shut down for street races. I suggest finding some street races if you plan on making passes all night. You don't have to race for money either. I know the guys from Chicago like to try to swing there dicks and talk big money but most of us Wisconsin guys just want to drag race. There will be plenty of people that are willing to race for little or no money. I will be more than willing to race just to race. All you have to do is find me at RSD.

[FURO RACECRAFT]

If you are willing to stay on nuts, I might be willing to strap a cannon on my car and see what happens. Hopefully I'll get the LS1 sold before the first RSD.

You have a PM LOL :dance: :dance:

[Dirty Vegas]

I don't recall anyone saying that only fast cars should run. Where did you get that from? As far as "being in the way" at RSD, be prepared to have the time run lanes shut down for street races. I suggest finding some street races if you plan on making passes all night. You don't have to race for money either. I know the guys from Chicago like to try to swing there dicks and talk big money but most of us Wisconsin guys just want to drag race. There will be plenty of people that are willing to race for little or no money. I will be more than willing to race just to race. All you have to do is find me at RSD.

Hey now buddy, you know not all of us Chicago guys have to race for big money. :spank: But it does make things more interesting. :hello: Hell, I'll do $20 races all night long. And for those that cry they don't have $20, they are in the WRONG hobby.

[bohn]

[QUOTE=YAV8] Come to the friday night events PAY your money and RUN. QUOTE]



Thats just the point though Ralph...i have been to several friday night events and have never got all the runs promised to me. I have yet to get the three runs i pay for.

WIR is a good facility and i'm glad we have it, don't get me wrong. I believe RSD is the best thing ever to happen there. Because like me theres lots of people who don't bracket race. I just hope they don't end up killing RSD too.

One more thing i think wednesdays would of gone over better if they would of advertised it, i always here things on the radio about WIR circle track, saturday bracket day or friday high school, but never once did i hear about wednesday import night. But unfortunately its dead now and i won't comment on this anymore.

[1SLO5.0]

Hey now buddy, you know not all of us Chicago guys have to race for big money. :spank: But it does make things more interesting. :hello: Hell, I'll do $20 races all night long. And for those that cry they don't have $20, they are in the WRONG hobby.


Not everyone, but there are a select few that think they are impressing people by asking to race for $2000. I agree with you though if you don't have $20 then you are in the wrong hobby!

[badass88gt]

Hey Darrell, can I borrow $20 ?????

I wanna run Dirty Vegas, but dont have the money!!!!!!!!! :flush:

[FURO RACECRAFT]

Not everyone, but there are a select few that think they are impressing people by asking to race for $2000. I agree with you though if you don't have $20 then you are in the wrong hobby!

Hey Darrell can I borrow $20 bucks about 3 times?????

[Slow Ride]

I don't even have enough money for gas to get to the track. Maybe I'm in the wrong hobby or maybe the wrong profession. I need to make the big bucks like all of you guys with race cars.

[1SLO5.0]

I don't even have enough money for gas to get to the track. Maybe I'm in the wrong hobby or maybe the wrong profession. I need to make the big bucks like all of you guys with race cars.


Who has race cars? I'll drive my car any where. I just ordered flat top pistons so I can run on pump gas this year.

[YAV8]

I have flat top pistons and my truck runs on pump gas, turbo blue? One other problem some people might have is it comes in on a trailer. If you want to run I will need a few spots and the hit. I runs on all motor??? no power adders any fool that can"t build a motor and put power adders and make it fast. Try a carb or injection only. Then lets talk YAV8 $$$$$$$

[BBATCO1]

Who has race cars? I'll drive my car any where. I just ordered flat top pistons so I can run on pump gas this year.
I have never owned anything but a flat top....

[1SLO5.0]

I have flat top pistons and my truck runs on pump gas, turbo blue? One other problem some people might have is it comes in on a trailer. If you want to run I will need a few spots and the hit. I runs on all motor??? no power adders any fool that can"t build a motor and put power adders and make it fast. Try a carb or injection only. Then lets talk YAV8 $$$$$$$


93 octane unless I spray it. Then it gets good fuel. My car rolls in on a trailer too. Anyone that thinks street cars can't arrive at the track on a trailer can kiss my ass. I can run on motor or on the can, it doesn't matter to me.....I just like to drag race. We can talk when racing season starts. I'll spot you out a few if need be. We can do it for cash, food or just for shits, it really doesn't matter to me.

[1SLO5.0]

I have never owned anything but a flat top....


I sinned last year and ran a 12cc dome. Never again. I don't want to have to beg, borrow and steal to put gas in my ride when I'm 200 miles from home.

[BBATCO1]

I sinned last year and ran a 12cc dome. Never again. I don't want to have to beg, borrow and steal to put gas in my ride when I'm 200 miles from home.


You crack me up!! Always good for a laugh....Brown eyes.....

[1SLO5.0]

You crack me up!! Always good for a laugh....Brown eyes.....


What? Now you don't believe that I'm running a flat top? Geez....

[jdsgallops]

I think some of you have missed the point. WIR is not a drag strip only track. I know some of you might not know that they also have a Thursday race every week. Lets not forget the DAYS and NIGHTS that they run other big night stock car races. Some are on national TV some are not. I have a idea that it takes a LOT of WORK and PLANNING to pull these things off. 3-10,000 people show up the place needs cleaning and prep.

:bsflag: I have been to Route 66 for a Hot Rod Power Festival that ended the same time they were starting a race at the circle track. I have been to Bradenton Motorsports park when they have had testing at their circle track while drag racing was going on. Excuses are all your coming up with. As I stated in my last post the only reason WIR doesn't have the people showing up is pure laziness. I have raced at or spectated at 7 different tracks. WIR is the only one that takes a lunch break. They also all promote, any chance they get, all events that they run. Look at GLD they have a special day almost every weekend promoting something to get people in. It varies from an all mopar day to nopi nationals to harley week. What does WIR do to get people to come to the drag strip? Nothing unless they have a IHRA sanctioned event. I know a Chicago based super stock racer that refers to WIR as the dust bowl and hates racing there.

YAV8 you say "to be happy there is a place to race". You only say so because it is the only thing you have. If you had nothing and went to some other tracks across the nation you would see how much you are really missing out on. Until WIR quits thinking that they are doing the racer a favor by opening their gates to them and realizes the racer is doing them a favor by showing up at the gate they will never have a large turnout for any street type event. There tech practices don't help either. I have not passed tech because of open ended lug nuts on a 13 sec car. I have not been allowed to run nitrous because the feed line went through the passenger compartment. I have friends that could not run their 14sec convertible because it didn't have a roll bar. Why drive a hour+ and hope you will pass WIR tech of the day not the IHRA techbook. I go to BMP or our local 1/8th mile track I pay my $15, sign the waiver and my tech card, that says I meet all saftey standards for the time I run, and I buckle up and pull into staging. Is it safe? I think so because I am not going to drive a car I feel is unsafe and put my life in jeporady much less anyone elses and I think most other racers feel the same way. Bottom line is WIR is not drag racer friendly unless you are a regular bracket racer and know everyone by name. I really hope that NE WI gets a drag strip that caters to the people in this thread that want to race heads up, street race or TNT on a regular basis. I know I would love to come up for a little vacation and be able to meet many of the people on the board with a rental car to beat the piss out of.

[badass88gt]

Well said John.

[midwest xtreme]

WIR is a pit not many racers like the track but its part of there circuit and have to go for points reasons so. Hales Corners Speedway went under for crap like that. Right up there with Brainerd that use to be a dragstrip in minnesota. Dont pay enough attention to the racers just to the money. :flipoff: Yea enough said.

[YAV8]

I have it . Take some souther mentality add a large dose of red neck stupidity and build a drag strip and let every moron run. Hell in street racing there are no rules. If people have no rules they will do things that will harm them selves and others. I think you can go on the net and find a lot of those things. I think down south there called wildcat tracks???? I have been to a lot of tracks not just several. I have seen people run things that should not have happened. I seen a clutch let go and take the guy foot off only his heal was left. I bet to this day he thinks whats a scatter shield for na I think he knows. Slicks are not just bald tires walk down the lanes at some tracks and tell that to the guy thats street racing. The spare tire in the trunk is not a small light tire for the frount. Looks cool but what do I know. You need to race more at tracks that cater to the street racer. If the tires are not flat and its not dumping fluids on the track YET you can race. Hell I bet if you jump in the trunk of your buddies car you can go down the track and add traction to his one wheel peel, hell I bet you could get by with out a helmet. Don't tell the inspectors where your hiding. Heck you could save money at the same time. I went to a track in upper michigan that you could run with the family in the car. I don't know if you needed a car seat for the baby, some places have differen't rules on that. I like racing where the safty crew is well placed and ready if something happens. You can go to the tracks where darrel, darrel and his other brother darrel are the crew. If you need help finding these tracks please PM me. I am shure some other people can help you out. I know your car is only a 14-15 second car which means that you are going 70+ at the big end HELLO WALL. Mabe you can find a track with out walls. Like I said you should be able to find a track where you can run. Check on the car seat thing for the baby. Lug nuts I don't think you need all of them LESS WEIGHT UP FROUNT. Please race where you are we have enough street racers up here. I never could see the reason for a roll cage in fast cars. I would think that they would be faster with out them. But what do I know. Few more months and I can go through tech and get my sticker. I can see how those extra years in preschool helped some people in later life. Think how lucky some people are. Being able to race at age 18 and being a freshman in high school. Should be some easy pickens there. Ask I will help you fill out your tech card. I don't know if a X will work in place of your name. Check that one out at your track down there. It 2:21 AM I need my beauty sleep.

[midwest xtreme]

You know what nobodys talking about safety. We all understand the importance of Safety. Its the point of you want buisness then do something good for the people who come there. Make it known whats going on. Dont just say here this is whats going on and expect everyone to know. Get the info out there thats whats being said. Maybe even ask the racers for ideas to make things better. Doesnt have to be big bucks but make it something. Take care of the people and they will take care of you. Its buisness 101. Its not that hard. Im originally from Milwaukee I was a street racer. I still play on the streets from time to time but all i have is a beater now. Those guys are idiots. You havent seen the half of it. Id take losing a foot over the shit on the streets. If that was all I lost id be fricking exstatic you can get a fake foot, not a new life. Anyways I'm thankful and I know everyone else is of having a place to have fun, race safely, and go home at the end of the night. Is that that hard to understand.

[midwest xtreme]

Those guys are idiots.


To clarify so I dont start any issues as if I havent already it seems. guys meaning some of the Ricer morons from milwaukee area.

[1SLO5.0]

I have it . Take some souther mentality add a large dose of red neck stupidity and build a drag strip and let every moron run. Hell in street racing there are no rules. If people have no rules they will do things that will harm them selves and others. I think you can go on the net and find a lot of those things. I think down south there called wildcat tracks???? I have been to a lot of tracks not just several. I have seen people run things that should not have happened. I seen a clutch let go and take the guy foot off only his heal was left. I bet to this day he thinks whats a scatter shield for na I think he knows. Slicks are not just bald tires walk down the lanes at some tracks and tell that to the guy thats street racing. The spare tire in the trunk is not a small light tire for the frount. Looks cool but what do I know. You need to race more at tracks that cater to the street racer. If the tires are not flat and its not dumping fluids on the track YET you can race. Hell I bet if you jump in the trunk of your buddies car you can go down the track and add traction to his one wheel peel, hell I bet you could get by with out a helmet. Don't tell the inspectors where your hiding. Heck you could save money at the same time. I went to a track in upper michigan that you could run with the family in the car. I don't know if you needed a car seat for the baby, some places have differen't rules on that. I like racing where the safty crew is well placed and ready if something happens. You can go to the tracks where darrel, darrel and his other brother darrel are the crew. If you need help finding these tracks please PM me. I am shure some other people can help you out. I know your car is only a 14-15 second car which means that you are going 70+ at the big end HELLO WALL. Mabe you can find a track with out walls. Like I said you should be able to find a track where you can run. Check on the car seat thing for the baby. Lug nuts I don't think you need all of them LESS WEIGHT UP FROUNT. Please race where you are we have enough street racers up here. I never could see the reason for a roll cage in fast cars. I would think that they would be faster with out them. But what do I know. Few more months and I can go through tech and get my sticker. I can see how those extra years in preschool helped some people in later life. Think how lucky some people are. Being able to race at age 18 and being a freshman in high school. Should be some easy pickens there. Ask I will help you fill out your tech card. I don't know if a X will work in place of your name. Check that one out at your track down there. It 2:21 AM I need my beauty sleep.



Are you drunk? That made absolutely no sense........

[YAV8]

Darrel the issue is SAFETY. Anyone can run what they brung. If you don't have safety you have simple street racing and we all know what can happen with that. The issue was that some people could not get by tech because of some safety issues. Please refure to your 2005 IHRA or NHRA tech book. They think that they are the only ones with just ONE small problem and they should be able to race. One problem here one problem there and all we have is problems. SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY There are no problems. If some one wants to run junk and unsafe cars PLEASE not where I am racing. I tryed to make thing a little colorful for some the more uninformed people. I am sure many have seen them selfs. There are rules for one thing SAFETY. When I see the sticker on the car next to me in the lane, I know HE or SHE past TECH. Sorry I do not drink. I like the rule of NO DRINKING IN THE PITS. There is a time and place for that also.

[1SLO5.0]

Ralph, I think what John was pointing out is WIR has some rules that a track rules which have been known to vary depending on who is running tech for the day. I personally have never had a problem with tech at WIR and I get along with all of the staff but John isn't the only person that I have heard complain about this. But I haven't experienced this myself so I can really comment on it. I do know that I have always run the nitrous feed line thru the interior of my car and I have never had an issue with tech. But they bust Johns ass for running it thru the interior of his car. That doesn't make sense to me.

The IHRA and NHRA rule books cover the rules pretty good. I agree with you 100% on safety Ralph.

[Dirty Vegas]

Darrel the issue is SAFETY. Anyone can run what they brung. If you don't have safety you have simple street racing and we all know what can happen with that. The issue was that some people could not get by tech because of some safety issues. Please refure to your 2005 IHRA or NHRA tech book. They think that they are the only ones with just ONE small problem and they should be able to race. One problem here one problem there and all we have is problems. SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY There are no problems. If some one wants to run junk and unsafe cars PLEASE not where I am racing. I tryed to make thing a little colorful for some the more uninformed people. I am sure many have seen them selfs. There are rules for one thing SAFETY. When I see the sticker on the car next to me in the lane, I know HE or SHE past TECH. Sorry I do not drink. I like the rule of NO DRINKING IN THE PITS. There is a time and place for that also.

Where did this off the wall safety arguement come from? Did I miss something? I know my car passes tech, and I street race. Don't lump all "street" racers into the same category. :nono: Oh, and one other quick thing. If it comes in on a trailer, it's not a street car. I've driven my car 1000+ miles, raced, and drove it 1000+ miles home all while getting 25mpg with the A/C on blast and the stereo bumpin. If needed, I can also have a conversation with my passenger, or on my phone while the car is running. Doubt anyone else here could do that.

[1SLO5.0]

I've driven my car 1000+ miles, raced, and drove it 1000+ miles home all while getting 25mpg with the A/C on blast and the stereo bumpin. If needed, I can also have a conversation with my passenger, or on my phone while the car is running. Doubt anyone else here could do that.


I'll drive my car anywhere you drive yours. I'll run on the same gas (just have to fill up more often) and have a conversation on my phone. I will not however have my stereo bumpin' or the A/C on. I don't normally bump my stereo and my car is a cheap beater that didn't come with A/C.

Don't lump "anyone else here" into the same category. :nono:

[Dave Bandt]

Oh, and one other quick thing. If it comes in on a trailer, it's not a street car.


Blah.....blah.....blah. And i suppose it's intelligent (in my case for example) to drive 100 miles one way in the car and hope that it doesn't break and leave me stranded there. That's a bunch of BS......

[Dirty Vegas]

Blah.....blah.....blah. And i suppose it's intelligent (in my case for example) to drive 100 miles one way in the car and hope that it doesn't break and leave me stranded there. That's a bunch of BS......

I drive more than 100 each way to WIR and don't use a trailer. AAA is the street cars best friend! :lolhit:

[1SLO5.0]

Blah.....blah.....blah. And i suppose it's intelligent (in my case for example) to drive 100 miles one way in the car and hope that it doesn't break and leave me stranded there. That's a bunch of BS......


I get into arguements with people about that trailer shit all the time. They all say "that ain't no street car because you have to bring it here on a trailer". Then I say lets go for a cruise right now and I'll prove its streetability. Then they come up with some other reason why its not a street car. Lets get one thing straight, I don't HAVE to bring my car in on a trailer, I CHOOSE to bring it on a trailer. If I break my car at the track (which I do often because I'm a reckless bastard) how do I drive it home?

And no Mr. Vegas none of this was directed at you. Its others that I get into pissing matches with about trailers so don't take this as directed at you.

[Dirty Vegas]

I'll drive my car anywhere you drive yours. I'll run on the same gas (just have to fill up more often) and have a conversation on my phone. I will not however have my stereo bumpin' or the A/C on. I don't normally bump my stereo and my car is a cheap beater that didn't come with A/C.

Don't lump "anyone else here" into the same category. :nono:

Sure, let's do it. I'll be driving to Commerce Raceway in Georgia for the EFI Nationals. April 22-23. Nothing like watching some 7 second LS1's get down and boogie!

[Dirty Vegas]

And no Mr. Vegas none of this was directed at you. Its others that I get into pissing matches with about trailers so don't take this as directed at you.

Can I have a hug now? :ghey1: :726:

[1SLO5.0]

This picture was taken in Utah. Remember, this is the car that you said at WIR RSD "that is not a street car, that is an all out race car". It did pretty good for a race car on a 4000 + mile round trip to California and back.

http://www.wisconsinstreetdominators.com/photopost/data/2/4MVC-639F.JPG

[Jim]

did i tell you guys that i'm running street class this year at WIR?

[jdsgallops]

Ralph, I think what John was pointing out is WIR has some rules that a track rules which have been known to vary depending on who is running tech for the day. I personally have never had a problem with tech at WIR and I get along with all of the staff but John isn't the only person that I have heard complain about this. But I haven't experienced this myself so I can really comment on it. I do know that I have always run the nitrous feed line thru the interior of my car and I have never had an issue with tech. But they bust Johns ass for running it thru the interior of his car. That doesn't make sense to me.

The IHRA and NHRA rule books cover the rules pretty good. I agree with you 100% on safety Ralph.

Exactly Darrell. I went one time with my bottle mounted and line run through the passenger compartment with no blow down tube. Tech said can't run without the blow down. OK I can respect that. Come back a few weeks later with the blow down tube and all of a sudden the feedline isn't right. Why wasn't that said in the first place so it could be "fixed" along with the blow down tube? The tech inspectors exact words were "fuel line" when describing to me why it should not be routed that way. Ummmmm you ever light nitrous on fire without adding a fuel to it?

Now go and reference the very IHRA or NHRA rule book you are promoting and it will clearly say that anything is legal if it is installed per manufactures recommendations. Read the instruction manual on any nitrous kit and it will tell you the line can be run inside or outside the passenger compartment. Same thing with roll bars on convertibles. You need to run sub 14.0 before it is required yet WIR won't allow ANY convertible to run with out one. Think about the law suits Ford, GM, Dodge and all other car manufactures will get now from convertible owners when they find out their stock convertible isn't safe to run down the 1/4 mile at any ET!

YAV8 logic and common sense go a long way but seem to be lacking in todays society. If I am a track owner and see something I think is unsafe, like donuts as skinnies, leaking fluids, or mulitple people in a car as it goes down track, I radio a track employee and tell them to prevent the car from making a pass. Last time I checked the tracks I went to held national events, like the NMRA spring Nationals and the Edelbrock/Pro racing series at Bradenton Motorsports Park, our local 1/8th mile constantly gets big IHRA races(likely because it hooks really well and is all concrete), and Orlando Speed World has FFW Spring Break Shootout and World Street Finals. Not bad for a bunch of "outlaw" tracks that a bunch of hicks own and run at in an unsafe enviroment. :rolleyes:

I think that is more than enough argument about the safety issue. My whole point was, and Darrell understood it, that WIR does not have constistent tech between inspectors nor the IHRA rulebook and how it is interpreted which IMO does not help bring TNT/Street racers to the track.

I think someone once said "if you want to make money you need to spend money." How much money does WIR spend on promoting the drag strip especially compared to the circle track?

[Dave Bandt]

did i tell you guys that i'm running street class this year at WIR?


You can't.....you don't have a street car! :moon:

[WICKED]

Think about the law suits Ford, GM, Dodge and all other car manufactures will get now from convertible owners when they find out their stock convertible isn't safe to run down the 1/4 mile at any ET!


Do you really think a lawsuit would hold up int he court of law, much less even make it to a court room, becasue you cannot take your car to a certain track? The lawsuits woudl not be directed to the manufactuers, but rather the track owners. This in effect would be the demise of drag racing. Lawsuit happy people can drop dead :76: :flipoff3:

[1SLO5.0]

Do you really think a lawsuit would hold up int he court of law, much less even make it to a court room, becasue you cannot take your car to a certain track? The lawsuits woudl not be directed to the manufactuers, but rather the track owners. This in effect would be the demise of drag racing. Lawsuit happy people can drop dead :76: :flipoff3:


In todays society yes that lawsuit would hold up in court. I can't believe the amount of stupid lawsuits that people win these days. It is unbelievable. People these days will sue anyone for anything and the sad thing is the jurors and judges are the same way so you are screwed if you are getting sued!

[WICKED]

like I said , lawsuit peopel are a waste of flesh, there are many people entitled to win lawsuits, but then there are others who ruin it for others as stated above. Those poepl who file lawsuits as a way of income suck monkey balls.

[1SLO5.0]

like I said , lawsuit peopel are a waste of flesh, there are many people entitled to win lawsuits, but then there are others who ruin it for others as stated above. Those poepl who file lawsuits as a way of income suck monkey balls.


:werd:

[jdsgallops]

If you order coffee from McDonalds do you think it is cold and then sue when you drive like an idiot, spill it all over your lap and find out it is hot when you have 2nd dergree burns?

When using a lawn mower to trim bushes, by picking it up and then loosing all of your fingers, do you think it is because the lawnmower manufacturer didn't warn you that you weren't suppose to pick it up?

Too many examples, though just as YAV8's post, it was meant as humor.

[WICKED]

thats what I am refering to. Our freedom as US citizens also entales assholes like the ones mentioned in jdsgallps post to sue for ridiculous reasons. Unbelievable.

[jdsgallops]

Here is the funny thing about that Dan. I am sure WIR's safety practices are dictated by their insurance company. The company doesn't want to get sued by one of the assholes so it makes sure WIR follows all rules. In the mean time the company charges high prices to WIR increasing their overhead. I find it hard to believe that any insurance company doesn't require all tracks to have as stringent tech as WIR has for these reasons. Yet somewhere some company or companies find that signing a card that places the obligation on you to keep your car at the proper safety requirements is acceptable. I can tell you Fl has a lot more crooks in it than WI and if someone is going to find a loop hole it would be down here. Part of WIR being able to break even more easily might include shopping that insurance quote around and finding someone more reasonable. Thus keeping prices down and possibly attracting more racers because of it. Like I said the only reason there is not a TNT day is beause of the effort put into it on behalf of the track owners to make it work. When you want to be open you find a way, and that doesn't seem to be happening.

[WICKED]

:wdumbass: :wedgie:

[Randy Schonscheck]

All you guys have to do is ask Jim about safety! Never let your guard down anywhere, even with the strigent rules. Some things happen because of ignorance and some are just what they are called......accidents. Another one to ask is Dave Bandt, we are happy to have him on the forum because he had the good safety stuff. :bna

[badass88gt]

What does all this hafta do about having no test n tune at WIR anymore? Thats what the bitch was about, now we can go on friday and get 3 runs if we're very lucky, or go saturday and get a couple runs then too? Thats what really sucks.

[jdsgallops]

Randy point well taken but I will retort with would either of those guys have been at the track with their cars without the proper safety equipment? I know them both and can answer NO. No one here is arguing that an unsafe car should be allowed to run but that common sense and logic should be allowed in what is safe. Combine that with adherence and understanding of the rulebook which would simplify things for a person who is only interested in showing up for a TNT day. I hardly consider a stock or mildly modified convertible unsafe.

[Dave Bandt]

The tech guys at WIR busted my chops for having the bottle for the 2nd stage in the back seat of my car about 3 years ago. They said something about the line in the cockpit not being legal....and i even had a blow off tube ran to the outside of the car! Being the humble, unvocal person that i am, of course i told them to pull the rule book out and show me. They couldn't. Then i explained how nitrous was an oxidizer and not a fuel. Finally i was told that Roger didn't want bottles mounted inside the interior of the car. After that i laughed and asked why they just didn't say so in the first place. Then i made a big stink and got my way anyway.....LOL! I thought that was a funny story and John just made me think of it. Bottom line is that the tech guys can make you do whatever they or track owner wants. They don't have to follow any rule books. But it's nice when they do........

[badass88gt]

Damn, is that sponsor list gonna get any longer????

I should put half those guys in my sig, I'm using their stuff too!


Sponsored by AD Performance, Flowtech Induction, Probe Industries/Coast High Performance, Moldex Raci........... nah, it just doesnt fit me!

[YAV8]

Jim don't be afraid to park down by the tree. We fry out every week, chicken, chops, ribs, brats, hamburgers and anything else that fits on the grill. Now I am realy looking forward to spring. Street cars to the lanes 2-3-4 and 5 Dial it tight and be ready to chop the tree.

[Dave Bandt]

Damn, is that sponsor list gonna get any longer????

I should put half those guys in my sig, I'm using their stuff too!


Sponsored by AD Performance, Flowtech Induction, Probe Industries/Coast High Performance, Moldex Raci........... nah, it just doesnt fit me!

I hope it gets A LOT longer! If it wasn't for the people/businesses you mentioned helping me out i wouldn't be able to do what i do. Regarless of what some people might think/say.....I am NOT made of money! LOL

PS: Sponsorship is not free or discounted parts. They expect something in return. A little publicity goes a LONG way.

[Slow Ride]

the tech isn't that stringent. They didn't check for my driveshaft hoop when I ran slicks. They have never checked my wheel stud length. when I ran my BMW they didn't even look under the hood. Also remember that 67Mike runs a damn low number without a cage. Again with what was said before, it's kind of hit or miss as to which rules will be enforced or not.

[nos2go]

yes..even for bikes the tech is lacking...you can run a busa at 140+ mph with blue jeans on...but they wouldnt let a buddy of mine run without a teather kill...he looped a string around the stock kill button and put a scew in it...then he passed tech.

[jdsgallops]

With even more examples of inconsistent tech practices I think my point of someone driving an hour or more to attend an event only to not know who will tech their car that day and if they will pass it holds more truth. With the population spread out as much as it is up there I would venture to bet 1/2 of the attendees drive for an hour or more to the track. I was to the point that the last year I lived up there I would not race at WIR and went through the trouble of borrowing a trailer from a buddy, flipping him a few bucks, get up early to load the car and then head to GLD from Sturgeon Bay. A lot more hassle and an extra 3 hours of driving but worth every penny, especially when the dollars spent per run averaged the same.

[badass88gt]

Yup. It depends on who you are I guess. I know guys that blow through tech with cars that shouldnt even be driven, and guys who get every single aspect checked over. Real hit or miss.

[UPdragracer]

:lame: I was told one time when I brought my car down , that I could not race the next time I came down because I had some primer spots on my car .
I was told I needed to have them painted .
The car had no visible rust . Justy a few light gray primer spots on it .
The car was light blue and you really could'nt see the primer that well .
The last few years I have noticed the same rat bag cars keep running every weekend with full primer jobs and some with 1/4 panels flopping in the breeze :wtf:
some times they piss me off ... but most of the employee's recognize me now and things are different . I get treated pretty good . I have gotten extra time runs on occasion . and I usually hang out after the races and party with em .
they are all a good bunch of folks . I think they just watch new cars and new people really close . There are some real nut cases that show up on occasion and they have to be told to leave :nuts:

[Jim]

Jim don't be afraid to park down by the tree. We fry out every week, chicken, chops, ribs, brats, hamburgers and anything else that fits on the grill. Now I am realy looking forward to spring. Street cars to the lanes 2-3-4 and 5 Dial it tight and be ready to chop the tree.

Is there any room for me down there by you to park my truck and trailer? I will consider that if they put up a stink where i pit now.

Yes I do trailer my streetcar to the track...................how the hell would I have gotten it home after Stellmacher plowed into me? It was bad enough I had to pay for all the damage myself, and would have pissed me off more if I would have had to pay for a tow home.


Ralph............I ALWAYS dial mine tight. I can't wait to be able to chase again. I'm too slow to run hotrod. It should be fun. :beerbuds:

[YAV8]

There is always room for trailers. You see them every time you get your slip. You will realy like the food thing. Some times Jeff will bring 5-6 lbs of ribs and all we do is heat them up. Did I tell you about the times we do the turkey in the deep fryer thing. Russes MA make the best potato salad. Then there are the cookies and chips dip and all the rest. Some times it just flaming eagles {cheap hamburgers} and brats on good johnson buns some times not so good buns. Always a good time. It cost nothing for the spot. Bring your own lawn chair or grab one thats not being used. We need a ford guy most stick in a little group and LEAVE after first round. Some times they are there till the end. Everone and your friends are always welcome to the shade tree, Its $20 bucks its bracket racing and its always FUN.

[FURO RACECRAFT]

[QUOTE=Red] I'm too slow to run hotrod. QUOTE]

:funyshit: :funyshit: :funyshit:

[smitty]

so jim is going to park by us slow guys now i will have someone to talk to. i will have to come over the the tree fort lol and meet you guys for some food.
scott

[YAV8]

Everyone is welcome. Like I said most of the mustang people are gone after first round. I try to stay till the end to see who wins and runner ups are. Always a good time and alway welcome just stop by and say HI. Street Cars to the lanes 2-3-4and5.

[smitty]

after reading it again. i see your saying we are out after first round. thats because we like to get three runs in and call it aday so you chevy guys can run the big 16 sec dogs with their perfect dial in time (16.85 dial and run a 16.86) lol
scott

[lazyass]

what?

[YAV8]

I think on saturday the name of the game is GO ROUNDS and WIN. It pays more then first round loosers. I have good days and bad days but I will always have fun days. I will always shake the hand of the person that beats me. He was better on that race then what I was. Life is to short to swet the small things. Think of it as a gun fight in the old west. There is only one winner. I do not like to race the guy thats going to the next round. I really hate to race the guy that win the event. Its trailer time both ways. YAV8

[Jim]

I think on saturday the name of the game is GO ROUNDS and WIN. It pays more then first round loosers. I have good days and bad days but I will always have fun days. I will always shake the hand of the person that beats me. He was better on that race then what I was. Life is to short to swet the small things. Think of it as a gun fight in the old west. There is only one winner. I do not like to race the guy thats going to the next round. I really hate to race the guy that win the event. Its trailer time both ways. YAV8

one of my favorite parts of bracket racing is talking over the race with the guy that beats me. 99% percent of my losses are my fault and the other 1% i can blame on the car.............but then it falls on the guy that built my car.......ME!

i can't wait to get to the track again!!!

[smitty]

ya i was just talking shit.
and making excuses for why i am out in a round with those dialed in big dogs in street class. i always have fun and its one of those if i would have done this or that i would have went another round
scott

[YAV8]

That falls under the KUDA, WOODA, SHOUDA I always have a week to think that one over. There are 5000 ways to lose and I am at 1314.