2007 Season

[Hille]

I didn't think it was possible, but the street scene in Point this year was even better than last year. Lot of street action and a great variety of cars. Cars from different cities all around the central WI area. Variety is where it's for drag racing. You can only race the same cars so many times. When someone new comes to town things get very interesting.

I thought the highlight of the season was when Badass came down to Point. That was a really good night. Furo sold lots of nitrous that weekend.

Furofest was fun as hell too. Haven't seen that many burnouts by sweet ass cars in a long time.

I didn't make it to any RSD events this year as I was too busy doing other types of racing, but hopefully next year I can make it to a couple of those.

Looking forward to 2008.

[SpyderGSX]

fun past year, lookin forward to see what some of you have done over winter.

[T-Bagger]

i only made it up there by you guys 3 times and it was a blast them little jap buzz boxes you guys have are pretty neat to watch also

[SpyderGSX]

i only made it up there by you guys 3 times and it was a blast them little jap buzz boxes you guys have are pretty neat to watch also

you should ride along, its much more fun that watching.

[T-Bagger]

i have something that will scare all of you guyz this year

[fastGBcamaro]

I wish there was a scene like this in GB. It used to be pretty good around here until the last few years. Now its just slow ricers and cops at all the good spots. Maybe Ill bring my slow junk out there sometime this year.

[DontStopMe]

It was a good year. I would have liked to have been able to attend more than i did. But such is life.

[Greg86z28]

I wish there was a scene like this in GB. It used to be pretty good around here until the last few years. Now its just slow ricers and cops at all the good spots. Maybe Ill bring my slow junk out there sometime this year.

You're more than welcome to crash at my house if you come. I'm the kid with the slow gray 86 Z28 you met at RSD. Greg. I think I borrowed your tire pressure gauge.

[fastGBcamaro]

You're more than welcome to crash at my house if you come. I'm the kid with the slow gray 86 Z28 you met at RSD. Greg. I think I borrowed your tire pressure gauge.

Yeah I remeber you. We were supposed to set a race up, but I snapped my driveshaft. We will have to get a race setup for this year at one of the RSD's. Thanks for offer to stay at your place, I might take you up on that if I happen to cruise over and check out your street scene.

[SpyderGSX]

Yeah I remeber you. We were supposed to set a race up, but I snapped my driveshaft. We will have to get a race setup for this year at one of the RSD's. Thanks for offer to stay at your place, I might take you up on that if I happen to cruise over and check out your street scene.

we should figure out a big weekend in point. then Harold can have another furofest that weekend.

[Greg86z28]

we should figure out a big weekend in point. then Harold can have another furofest that weekend.

Hell yeah.

[abot316]

I can't complain about 2007. I finally got to Elkhart Lake with one of my old Chevy's, forgave people by giving them a hell ride, and and got to practice alot of circular road repaving.

[KARKRAFT]

My car is becoming less and less "raceable" on the street, but I hope to make it out next year more than I did this year. I should be at plenty of RSD's too.

[SpyderGSX]

My car is becoming less and less "raceable" on the street, but I hope to make it out next year more than I did this year. I should be at plenty of RSD's too.

It would be nice to see ya downtown come spring. I want to see what has all been done to that thing since last year.

[PointDSM]

I still remember our race, seriously one of my favorite races all summer. You were just coming like a freight train behind me, it was just cool to watch you try and catch up! :D

[KARKRAFT]

Maybe I'll have to pick up a set of DR's. That should make it a little more interesting.

[SpyderGSX]

Maybe I'll have to pick up a set of DR's. That should make it a little more interesting.

well Harold is hooking me up with 2 big ones. :D

[FURO RACECRAFT]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

well Harold is hooking me up with 2 big ones. :D

[KARKRAFT]

well Harold is hooking me up with 2 big ones. :D

What, Drag radials? :D Don't you need 4 for that AWD machine? :hehe:

[S3SRT]

For some odd reason.. I don't think he's talking about DR's.

[SpyderGSX]

What, Drag radials? :D Don't you need 4 for that AWD machine? :hehe:

:gotnos: :gotnos:


whoops, there i go again, letting secrets out. ggrrrr

[fastGBcamaro]

Just wondering if you guys have any streets around there that you actually prep. for racing? I always wanted to find a good road and lay down some rubber and vht for some wheels up racing on the street. Either way I'll have to set up my suspension properly to stay with you AWD guys out of the hole.

[Greg86z28]

I think the G spot might be good for that? :sheepd:

[SpyderGSX]

Just wondering if you guys have any streets around there that you actually prep. for racing? I always wanted to find a good road and lay down some rubber and vht for some wheels up racing on the street. Either way I'll have to set up my suspension properly to stay with you AWD guys out of the hole.

cheater :nana:

[PointDSM]

You can't put down VHT when your driving around town. Same concept as raising boost on race gas.

[Hille]

Yes we have some good "streets" and yes you are welcome to put down VHT. A couple of guys from Neilsville did that a few years back and kicked everyone's axx. There were some awesome matchups that night.

[Greg86z28]

Just wondering if you guys have any streets around there that you actually prep. for racing? I always wanted to find a good road and lay down some rubber and vht for some wheels up racing on the street. Either way I'll have to set up my suspension properly to stay with you AWD guys out of the hole.

There's another fella on this board who's going to come to Stevens Point and he wants to bring some VHT too.

[badass88gt]

Who? I bet he'll be called a cheater!

[Hille]

Well I just tried to check the rule book and I found out there is no rule book. Go figure.

Maybe we can just make up the rules as we go along. That way if we lose we can just make some new rule.

[Greg86z28]

We can just invite the guy from pinks. He'll make sure everything is kosher. :726:

[zxtuner]

:675: :chairshot

[fastGBcamaro]

With or without vht, its just a matter of properly setting up your suspension. Either way it should be fun. My stock LS1 can hardly break the tires loose anyway. This thing is a turd.

[badass88gt]

With or without vht, its just a matter of properly setting up your suspension.


Not exactly true. You havent seen this road.

[Fireballferkey]

I know my old cobra hooked really good... I even hung with matts 10.9-- awd car for like 40ft then it was all over...

[SpyderGSX]

I know my old cobra hooked really good... I even hung with matts 10.9-- awd car for like 40ft then it was all over...

this is a street, not a track. If you get to alter other things besides your car, so should I. So I am going to go design some sort of sling-shot to launch my car and send me down the road. Then it will be fair. :nana:

[badass88gt]

If a guy can figure that out, go for it. There are no rules!

A giant rubber band strung between 2 trucks!

[nos2go]

I cant blame the road or my car, usually its my thumb that gets carried away. :gotnos:

[Greg86z28]

With or without vht, its just a matter of properly setting up your suspension. Either way it should be fun. My stock LS1 can hardly break the tires loose anyway. This thing is a turd.

Yeah I hear you man. But those things are still pretty quick stock right? Didn't you run a 13.xx something with it?

[Hille]

this is a street, not a track. If you get to alter other things besides your car, so should I. So I am going to go design some sort of sling-shot to launch my car and send me down the road. Then it will be fair. :nana:

I'll give you a good kick in the axx. That'll send you down the road in a hurry.

[klopjosh]

Is this road a county rd or something? Because not too many roads around here are in good enough shape to send two fast cars down it side by side. Well, except a road off of west river drive that Ive heard "hosts" a few races. Or at least has...

[fastGBcamaro]

Yeah I hear you man. But those things are still pretty quick stock right? Didn't you run a 13.xx something with it?

Yeah they are pretty fast in stock form. But what upsets me is that I have a few small boltons and the thing still runs stock times. Oh well, I still have fun racing no matter how slow my car is.

[Greg86z28]

Yeah they are pretty fast in stock form. But what upsets me is that I have a few small boltons and the thing still runs stock times. Oh well, I still have fun racing no matter how slow my car is.

Yeah. Must be the driver then! :sheepd:

[fastGBcamaro]

Yeah. Must be the driver then! :sheepd:

:laugh: Im sure thats the problem to. That being said, I will be accepting spots at RSD. Hopefully you guys in Point have some cars slow enough to give me a chance at winning a race.

[badass88gt]

Is this road a county rd or something? Because not too many roads around here are in good enough shape to send two fast cars down it side by side. Well, except a road off of west river drive that Ive heard "hosts" a few races. Or at least has...


Yeah, it was. At least where I went was. Anything with some torque that doesnt have AWD will have troubles.

I watched a wagon and an S10 both spin, and they were on slicks.

[SpyderGSX]

Yeah, it was. At least where I went was. Anything with some torque that doesnt have AWD will have troubles.

I watched a wagon and an S10 both spin, and they were on slicks.

You cant blame your traction issue on only the road. There are lots a person can do to improve traction besides spray down some VHT. Have the S10 or wagon been corner-balanced? All those little changes could make a big difference.

[DRK]

corner weighting a drag car isn't as necessary as a rr car. Most important thing in a drag car is weight transfer. On the track you pretty much want as much as possible until you get into the really quick stuff. On the street all that weight transfer just shocks the tires. These guys might want to try tightening everything up and coming out softer/ slipping the clutch more.

[DRK]

You cant blame your traction issue on only the road.


Then you should have no problem going to the dragstrip, where a rwd car would have the advantage?

[SpyderGSX]

corner weighting a drag car isn't as necessary as a rr car. Most important thing in a drag car is weight transfer. On the track you pretty much want as much as possible until you get into the really quick stuff. On the street all that weight transfer just shocks the tires. These guys might want to try tightening everything up and coming out softer/ slipping the clutch more.

I think you are overlooking something. yeah you have front to rear weight transfer, but there is also weight transfer due to torque twist.

I will come to an RSD if a few of you will come to an auto-X at USA Internation Raceway in Shawano.

[SpyderGSX]

Then you should have no problem going to the dragstrip, where a rwd car would have the advantage?

Yes a RWD car with slicks will have a HUGE advantage at the drag strip. Its like putting glue on a football receiver’s hands.

[DRK]

Most drag cars are set up with a anti roll device/ airbag etc. so the don't have bodyroll from torque twist. I don't ever make it that far north, thats damn near Canada!

[DRK]

Yes a RWD car with slicks will have a HUGE advantage at the drag strip. Its like putting glue on a football receiver’s hands.


as you will have the advantage on your BFE roads in the sticks

[SpyderGSX]

Most drag cars are set up with a anti roll device/ airbag etc. so the don't have bodyroll from torque twist. I don't ever make it that far north, thats damn near Canada!

Anti-Roll/Sway Bar does help some, but not all. In fact I know LOTS of drag racers who get rid of their sway bars for weight reduction.

Shawano is like what, 20-30 minutes from WIR?

[DRK]

Thats like 4hrs from me

[SpyderGSX]

as you will have the advantage on your BFE roads in the sticks

I will agree, but thats why god graced you V8 guys with twice the cylinders.

[DRK]

unnatural atmosphere = displacement. We have a car in the shop the make over 1300HP on 141ci

what about your AWD advantage??

[fastGBcamaro]

Does anyone know the guy that bought this car? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Race-Car-91-Eagle-Talon-AWD-Turbo-Eclipse-DSM_W0QQitemZ290176844488
I guess he is from Point. Does he plan on taking it to the track? I happen to know a couple dsm guys that would give him a run if he takes it to rsd this year.

[SpyderGSX]

Does anyone know the guy that bought this car? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Race-Car-91-Eagle-Talon-AWD-Turbo-Eclipse-DSM_W0QQitemZ290176844488
I guess he is from Point. Does he plan on taking it to the track? I happen to know a couple dsm guys that would give him a run if he takes it to rsd this year.

give him a run? car does 9.0 @ 160 with a slow 1.6 60 footer. Not sure what DSM you know of in the midwest that will keep up with this stuff.

That car was scene on my trailer a few months back. :dunno:

[DontStopMe]

That car was scene on my trailer a few months back. :dunno:You must have deep pockets! :P

[Fireballferkey]

this is a street, not a track. If you get to alter other things besides your car, so should I. So I am going to go design some sort of sling-shot to launch my car and send me down the road. Then it will be fair. :nana:
Im talking about the street I could hang with matts car for the first 40ft or so and then he would just pull away hard from me and that was not messing with any thing on the car I will run you at WIR with the same set up and tire pressure as I run you at the lapping event I will not change a single thing.

[DRK]

Are those ATV axles?
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t116/DRK_LLC/80c1_12.jpg

[fastGBcamaro]

give him a run? car does 9.0 @ 160 with a slow 1.6 60 footer. Not sure what DSM you know of in the midwest that will keep up with this stuff.

That car was scene on my trailer a few months back. :dunno:

The car is still under major construction, but his plan is to have it ready for this year. And in my personal opinion, it would be a very close race. I think I remember him saying it might challenge the mark for the highest recorded hp dsm. But that doesn't really mean anything until its finished and at the track.

[PointDSM]

Guessing his name is Luke? Since you are from GreenBay. I don't doubt him making the highest HP DSM in the country, thats not to hard(big turbo, lots of nitrous, hopes and prayers). But i doubt...err...i know he doesn't have what it takes to be the quickest DSM in the country.

[SpyderGSX]

The car is still under major construction, but his plan is to have it ready for this year. And in my personal opinion, it would be a very close race. I think I remember him saying it might challenge the mark for the highest recorded hp dsm. But that doesn't really mean anything until its finished and at the track.

yeah, i see lots of cars make 1000+ hp but end up running 11's in the 1320.

Luke at beyond redline is skilled, and probably could do it, but its gonna take lots of work and i dont think he'll go under a 9.0 his first year. I HIGHLY doughy he'll be the quickest DSM in the country. He'd have to beat a 7.47 i beleave.

[fastGBcamaro]

Guessing his name is Luke? Since you are from GreenBay. I don't doubt him making the highest HP DSM in the country, thats not to hard(big turbo, lots of nitrous, hopes and prayers). But i doubt...err...i know he doesn't have what it takes to be the quickest DSM in the country.

He isn't trying to be the quickest in the country. That record I think is nearly an impossible goal. But I do know that Luke's car should move out pretty good, and I think it will be a good race for the car that I posted the link to. Either way, both Luke's car and the one I posted the link for are going to be making a lot of V8 guys like myself look pathetic.

[DontStopMe]

Luke is still the fastest DSM i've seen at WIR. I saw him run a 10.8 If i remember correctly(like 3 years ago) and I think his best is around a 10.6. actually, I take that back when as I think about this. Tim Zimmer ran a high 9 this season! I dont think it was at WIR though.

[SpyderGSX]

look at the slow launch too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbdgRxhOq4w

[SpyderGSX]

2008 should be an exciting season!!!

[fastGBcamaro]

I agree totaly that he might not break 9.0 his first year back with it, but the same probably goes for your friend with his car. Im sure there is a little bit of a learning curve for driving a car that fast, and it takes some major cohonas.

[SpyderGSX]

I agree totaly that he might not break 9.0 his first year back with it, but the same probably goes for your friend with his car. Im sure there is a little bit of a learning curve for driving a car that fast, and it takes some major cohonas.

That’s for sure!!! I’m not factoring in driver, just purely car. We know that this red DSM (aka Lucifer) already is capable of running a 9sec 1/4.

[badass88gt]

You cant blame your traction issue on only the road. There are lots a person can do to improve traction besides spray down some VHT. Have the S10 or wagon been corner-balanced? All those little changes could make a big difference.

Hmm. Thats interesting, seeing how you could feel the slipperyness on the road with your foot. I guess it must be my car, that adjustable suspension and airbags in each side do me no good.

I find it odd though, on nice, concrete surfaces the car hooks and goes.

That road we were on was the shittiest surface Ive ever raced on, period. I'm sure thats why we were there to begin with, knowing the AWD crowd had the advantage over the RWD. I also noticed NOBODY took me up on my repeated offers to meet me at the track. I came down and played their game, and did pretty damn good considering I never opened a bottle, but no one would accept my invitation. There is always a stipulation. "I'll come to the dragstrip if you come to the auto-x". That makes zero sense to challenge a car like mine to an auto-x. That would be like challenging the AWD cars to hook bumpers with my truck.


P.S.....I do believe you are confusing sway bars and anti-roll bars. 2 completely different animals.

[SpyderGSX]

Hmm. Thats interesting, seeing how you could feel the slipperyness on the road with your foot. I guess it must be my car, that adjustable suspension and airbags in each side do me no good.

I find it odd though, on nice, concrete surfaces the car hooks and goes.

That road we were on was the shittiest surface Ive ever raced on, period. I'm sure thats why we were there to begin with, knowing the AWD crowd had the advantage over the RWD. I also noticed NOBODY took me up on my repeated offers to meet me at the track. I came down and played their game, and did pretty damn good considering I never opened a bottle, but no one would accept my invitation. There is always a stipulation. "I'll come to the dragstrip if you come to the auto-x". That makes zero sense to challenge a car like mine to an auto-x. That would be like challenging the AWD cars to hook bumpers with my truck.

P.S.....I do believe you are confusing sway bars and anti-roll bars. 2 completely different animals.

haha, To start, you talked yourself up and wanted to race the biggest and baddest import in town. Now your saying the roads were slippery. To make it fair, lets go cruisin through town, 1st stoplight we hit.

Your saying how it makes no sense to compete with your car at an auto-x, but my car should compete at both drag AND auto-x???

[badass88gt]

Where did I say you should compete auto-x? Thats what you enjoy, thats cool.

I did want to race the fastest guy there. And when I wanted to race again the last time, I was denied. I admitted from the beginning I underestimated those cars. When I realized I needed to take the situation a little more seriously, that it wasnt gonna be a "walk in the park", I was shot down.

[DRK]

The way I see it. Andy is always trying to hustle someone in to a knife fight and he's packing a machine gun.

[badass88gt]

I'd be curious to hear what some of the other RWD guys thought of the surface that night.

[SpyderGSX]

Where did I say you should compete auto-x? Thats what you enjoy, thats cool.

I did want to race the fastest guy there. And when I wanted to race again the last time, I was denied. I admitted from the beginning I underestimated those cars. When I realized I needed to take the situation a little more seriously, that it wasnt gonna be a "walk in the park", I was shot down.

haha, thats not what i was saying? you want me to drag race but my car is setup for the twisties. Hence why I keep my turbo small enough to reduce turbo lag. You want a guy that auto-x's to come play on the straigh-line racer's playground, but you wont come play on the auto-xer's playground.

packing a machine gun? WTF do you mean? NOS? NOPE, my car does not have NOS. at least not yet, maybe someday.

[SpyderGSX]

I'd be curious to hear what some of the other RWD guys thought of the surface that night.

I agree that the road is no preped drag track, but what did you expect for a back-road thats out in the country? where would you rather run at, on some city street that gets street cleaned daily???

[badass88gt]

I'm not the one saying "I'll play your game if you play mine." I mustve missed it, where did I call you out? I may have said if you wanted to we could run, but I dont think Ive ever called you out. The only challenge I ever set out was for some of the AWD guys, mainly Maccahia (sp) to meet me at the track. I dont recall ever bringing you into it, because honestly at the dragstrip it wouldnt be very close between us. I'm not really into picking on cars that arent at the same level on the track.

[DRK]

you have a prepped lightweight AWD car on boost. you talk about how quick your car and ones like it are, then call out drag cars to a autoX, or some crowned greasy road.

[DRK]

I'm not really into picking on cars that arent at the same level on the track.


exactly!!

[badass88gt]

I agree that the road is no preped drag track, but what did you expect for a back-road thats out in the country? where would you rather run at, on some city street that gets street cleaned daily???

No, but i can already see the crying that will go on if I prep the road. Its not worth the hassle, if someone wants to run me, I'm at every RSD. I'm sure no one will show again.

[SpyderGSX]

I also noticed NOBODY took me up on my repeated offers to meet me at the track. I came down and played their game

You did not say who you directed that towards so i assumed it was to all of us stevens point crew. sorry if i misunderstood.


My car is a prepped lightweight AWD car.

AWD - True, prepped lightweight??? NO. its a 3000lb car. not the lightest. its about 150lbs lighter than stock.

[SpyderGSX]

No, but i can already see the crying that will go on if I prep the road. Its not worth the hassle, if someone wants to run me, I'm at every RSD. I'm sure no one will show again.

Like a lot of us said, WHY RSD?

How about someplace where we can get more than a few runs in?

[badass88gt]

It was an open invitation to anyone in the Point crew.

[badass88gt]

Like a lot of us said, WHY RSD?

How about someplace where we can get more than a few runs in?

Where do you think we'd get more runs in than at an RSD? When I go to RSD, I run as much as I want.

[SpyderGSX]

It was an open invitation to anyone in the Point crew.

I'll play your game if you play my game. Thats what they told my in pre-school! on the streets is nutural ground so dont say you played my game.

[SpyderGSX]

Where do you think we'd get more runs in than at an RSD? When I go to RSD, I run as much as I want.

I went to Rock Falls a few times. Had a blast there. Each run was within 5-10 minutes tops.

[badass88gt]

Yeah, I'll be sure to come auto-x with 4" wide front tires, no sway bars, and stock brakes. No thanks.

I thought you sold your car last fall?

[badass88gt]

I went to Rock Falls a few times. Had a blast there. Each run was within 5-10 minutes tops.

I cant pass NHRA tech.

[DRK]

prepped drag car against a prepped autoX car .......yeah!

[SpyderGSX]

I cant pass NHRA tech.

haha, maybe you should then huh???

My brakes are stock too, and tires are easy to change. In fact I tell ya what, I'll loan ya a set of race rubber you can run on for the day. They'll fit:
http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/asm/dizmmv2/IMG_3520.jpg

[PointDSM]

How bout GLD in the spring? I won't go back to RSD at WIR, unless its something serious, haha. I got 14-16 runs(can't remember) on a Tuesday night at GLD.

[SpyderGSX]

prepped drag car against a prepped autoX car .......yeah!

How about we race to the 1/4 mile marker, turn around and race back? F&F2 Style???

[badass88gt]

No, my car will never pass NHRA tech, I knew that when I built it. Its not really something I can change without spending a bunch of cash. If you dont want to come to RSD, thats fine.

[badass88gt]

How bout GLD in the spring? I won't go back to RSD at WIR, unless its something serious, haha. I got 14-16 runs(can't remember) on a Tuesday night at GLD.


Like I said, I cant pass NHRA.

[SpyderGSX]

No, my car will never pass NHRA tech, I knew that when I built it. Its not really something I can change without spending a bunch of cash. If you dont want to come to RSD, thats fine.

How about an RSD like PDSM said. A test/tune night. I had a great experience there!

[SpyderGSX]

Like I said, I cant pass NHRA.

you'd pass tech there. Last time i went there, the looked at the car to make sure there were wheels on it, and slapped on the number.

[DRK]

you run R comps TOO!

[PointDSM]

I will confirm that statement^^^ We went months apart, it wasn't some random day.

I run R-compounds now too! I'm just lacking in the NOS department, as well as the money department:(

[badass88gt]

GLD is an NHRA track. 3 1/2 hour drive is an awful long way to "hope" I can get in.

There are just as many guys that get gone over with a fine tooth comb as there are guys that breeze through it. When they were IHRA, the guy even questioned my valvestems. There is no consistency with the tech, and Ive heard theyre trying to "buckle down" on it. Its too far to drive and then turn around if they dont let me in.

Whats really weird is, last time I raced RSD@WIR I got 9 timeslips, and I spent a ton of time walking around bullshitting.

[Greg86z28]

They always check your car more closely when it looks like it's going to run 10s as compared to 15s (not to rip on anyone)

[badass88gt]

The bottom line is this. I never called you guys out, I dont pick on cars slower than mine. If you guys want to run me, it will be on a prepped track and it will have to be at RSD@WIR. There it is.

[SpyderGSX]

GLD is an NHRA track. 3 1/2 hour drive is an awful long way to "hope" I can get in.

There are just as many guys that get gone over with a fine tooth comb as there are guys that breeze through it. When they were IHRA, the guy even questioned my valvestems. There is no consistency with the tech, and Ive heard theyre trying to "buckle down" on it. Its too far to drive and then turn around if they dont let me in.

Whats really weird is, last time I raced RSD@WIR I got 9 timeslips, and I spent a ton of time walking around bullshitting.

Some day I'd like to build a drag DSM. Then maybe I'll hit up an RSD. I know my car is not that fast in a straight line, I know you'd beat me at the track where you hook, why waste my time/money to race you. only place i have a chance is the street where i can use my AWD advantage.

[PointDSM]

This whole thing sounds like Evilution vs. VPT(for those to get the joke).

[badass88gt]

Some day I'd like to build a drag DSM. Then maybe I'll hit up an RSD. I know my car is not that fast in a straight line, I know you'd beat me at the track where you hook, why waste my time/money to race you. only place i have a chance is the street where i can use my AWD advantage.


So how did this all get started? Again, I never called you out. I just said it was a shitty road, which for the torquey RWD guys, it is.

[SpyderGSX]

So how did this all get started? Again, I never called you out. I just said it was a shitty road, which for the torquey RWD guys, it is.

I dunno. I was mostly givin you shit, dont take it personally or I'll kick ya in the junk. :wink:

I know what you mean, public streets can be in any sort of condition. the spot we went to that night was chosen ONLY because it was the only spot we know of that is far away from anything and is the SAFEST.

[Greg86z28]

The G spot is known to be pretty damn slick I'd say.

[badass88gt]

I was mostly givin you shit,


Now that I know that, it changes everything. I can take alot of shit.

[SpyderGSX]

Now that I know that, it changes everything. I can take alot of shit.


ha, good to know. I'm out!

[DontStopMe]

STREET dominators, com on guys. haha. Badass, the spot you went to is the most common spot we go to. I've raced my FWD there.

[zxtuner]

this thread is like a dead ☺☺☺☺ing horse

[Joel_91GT]

The G spot is known to be pretty damn slick I'd say.
i just laugh when i read this :biggrinsa

[badass88gt]

I've raced my FWD there.


What does that have to do with it?

Watch some street racing videos. REAL street racing. Get a copy of the Scandalous DVD. Watch how they prep the road. They arent racing 12-13 second cars on the street.

This is definately STREET dominators. Its just that most of us make way too much power and torque to hook up on some greasy ass country road. I didnt know gobs of power and torque was a bad thing until now, I guess if the 12 and 13 second cars that race out there want to be considered King of the Street, they can call themselves that. Those are the only cars that the road will work for.

[DontStopMe]

What does that have to do with it?


This is definately STREET dominators. Its just that most of us make way too much power and torque to hook up on some greasy ass country road. I didnt know gobs of power and torque was a bad thing until nowI just meant its not all AWD's. What good is power without traction? 1000hp would be useless on the street,no? Some cars can have too much hp for the streets and/or not the right set up for the streets. Half the reason im thinking of selling my FWD.

[badass88gt]

Or they can prep the street the way it should be done.

[1fastdeuce]

Scotty K has a problem with itchy balls.

[badass88gt]

Ive told him numerous times how to deal with it. He dont listen.

[KARKRAFT]

I'll race ya at an RSD badass...But I might ask for some land.

[Hille]

Actually Karkraft did go to an RSD (in 2007) with an arranged race with you Badass and you didn't show.

We didn't pick our match-up spot because it is slippery. Actually it is newer pavement that is smooth and so far (knock on wood) it has been an excellent location for us traffic wise.

Go ahead and prep the road. No one will stop you, but you will have to listen to SpyderGSX piss and moan. Ha ha.

I'm sure some day this summer Mack-aye-ahh will be at WIR. You guys can go at it then.

[badass88gt]

Thats right, I missed the last one when my clutch was out. I do remember.

[badass88gt]

I'll race ya at an RSD badass...But I might ask for some land.


You can ask. Everyone knows what I run and everyone seems to think it would be really close.

[Hille]

That's a race I'd like to see. Heads up.

[SpyderGSX]

Go ahead and prep the road. No one will stop you, but you will have to listen to SpyderGSX piss and moan.

If one wants to go prep the road ahead of time, go for it. Its public road.

OldManHille: Its time for that vette to take another smackdown by DizmmV.2!!!

[KARKRAFT]

You can ask. Everyone knows what I run and everyone seems to think it would be really close.

Heads up sounds good to me...I've never taken spots, I've given em, but I'd rather lose fair than win by having a head start. I was just giving you a hard time about having the advantage of R(ight)WD

[Stud]

If one wants to go prep the road ahead of time, go for it. Its public road.

When else would you prep it?? After the race??

[SpyderGSX]

When else would you prep it?? After the race??

you can prep it after the race if you'd like. I dont care!

[snowseeker]

When else would you prep it?? After the race??


The crown vic is going to the scrap in a couple days, Its been a good car.

[Stud]

The crown vic is going to the scrap in a couple days, Its been a good car.


Wow, are you serious?
You sure did ok on buying that car.

Next month will be 10 years for me with my 91 daily driver.

[snowseeker]

Yes it has been very good to me! Being the winter car for the last few years really took a toll on all the lines and whatnot on the car. I did make a valiant effort to fix everything but it is just to much.

If anyone needs any new brake hardware like discs, or calipers for a 92 crown vic let me know because I have them new just sitting here now.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4194/crownvic001xs4.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8530/crownvic002ho2.jpg

[ExtremeDSM]

If one wants to go prep the road ahead of time, go for it. Its public road.

OldManHille: Its time for that vette to take another smackdown by DizmmV.2!!!

That vette better just retire from racing dsm's. :bna

[Hille]

Yeah it's making them all look bad.

[ExtremeDSM]

It make all the dsm's look bad because the vette is so slow???

[Greg86z28]

The Corvette is also a car that has some class, not some gutted out tin box rice burner. Say what you want, but a DSM is not classy nor does it have value.

[ExtremeDSM]

Who's car was gutted out? Dizmm and my car were neither gutted out when they raced that vette. Classy??? WTF. Don't know who refers to a z06 as classy. Dsm's don't have value? That is funny, they sell way over blue book all the time. And, WTF does that have to do with who's car is faster?

[snowseeker]

The Corvette is also a car that has some class, not some gutted out tin box rice burner. Say what you want, but a DSM is not classy nor does it have value.



Class is for old people.......

[Greg86z28]

Class is for old people.......

What are you saying about Tom! :j/k:

[snowseeker]

:topicsuck

[SpyderGSX]

slow honda's also suck!

[PointDSM]

I've never gotten a chance to race the Vette, i have even asked! Class-less old people driving slow cars suck!

[superjeep]

Isn't that vette mostly stock with an exhaust? I don't know? It would wax my as$!!

[85 CAMARO]

I'm a class-less old man driving a slow car!!! LOL :smoker:

[snowseeker]

slow honda's also suck!



Slow anything sucks.

[Hille]

Any time (other than winter) you guys (even DSM's) want to challenge my slow, old, classy Vette -which is completely stock by the way including the factory titanium exhaust- Bring it.

[SpyderGSX]

Isn't that vette mostly stock with an exhaust? I don't know? It would wax my as$!!

Stock Z06 corvette's are like 400hp or something really close.

Any time (other than winter) you guys (even DSM's) want to challenge my slow, old, classy Vette -which is completely stock by the way including the factory titanium exhaust- Bring it.

Last year I beat you in your vette, evo, and your type R. Maybe its not the car thats the problem, maybe its the DRIVER that can't keep up!

[fastGBcamaro]

I'll show you guys what a bolt-on LS1 can do, if any of you want to line up with me this year.

[SpyderGSX]

I'll show you guys what a bolt-on LS1 can do, if any of you want to line up with me this year.

your too late, we've seen what bolt on LS1's car do.

[fastGBcamaro]

your too late, we've seen what bolt on LS1's car do.

Not this one you haven't. :hello: :wall:

[SpyderGSX]

Not this one you haven't. :hello: :wall:

Well, I hope that LS1 knows how to turn then.

[Greg86z28]

Stock Z06 corvette's are like 400hp or something really close.

In 2001, the reintroduction of the Z06, it was rated at 385 hp. It had an LS1 engine. In 2002, the hp was bumped to 405 due to the LS6 engine (which is an LS1 with different heads, intake and cam, I'm pretty sure).

[ExtremeDSM]

Last year I beat you in your vette, evo, and your type R. Maybe its not the car thats the problem, maybe its the DRIVER that can't keep up!

I think maybe old age is catching up to him. He must not be able to shift fast enough or something.

[Hille]

The '01 Z06 has a 385hp LS6 not an LS1.

Last year the EVO and Vette both spent a lot of time ahead of the DSM's.

[Greg86z28]

The '01 Z06 has a 385hp LS6 not an LS1.

Yup you're right! I did not know that :)

[KARKRAFT]

The '01 Z06 has a 385hp LS6 not an LS1.

Last year the EVO and Vette both spent a lot of time ahead of the DSM's.

And a little time in front of a little blue Neeyawn.

Edit: Well, the Vette did, I never raced your Evo. Although, the kid that came up with me that had the white Evo still gets salty about you beating him. :thumbs_up

[SpyderGSX]

The '01 Z06 has a 385hp LS6 not an LS1.

Last year the EVO and Vette both spent a lot of time ahead of the DSM's.

WHAT DSM's????? I dont really recall that many DSM's out that much.

[Hille]

I guess they were all in the shop.

[SpyderGSX]

I guess they were all in the shop.

HA, Your a funny man. That EVO was down WAY MORE than my DSM.

[Hille]

Yeah, they were both made by Mitsubishi.

[SpyderGSX]

Yeah, they were both made by Mitsubishi.

Yeah.... I have a Mitsubishi Talon right??

Eagle is a division of Chrysler, you should know these things Tom, or is that alzheimer's setting in?

[DRK]

did somebody say itchypussi??

[SpyderGSX]

did somebody say itchypussi??

nope, I didn't hear anything.

[Hille]

You can slap on all the Eagle Talon stickers you want on that car. It's still at Mitsubishi. Same shit different pile. :wink:

[SpyderGSX]

You can slap on all the Eagle Talon stickers you want on that car. It's still at Mitsubishi. Same shit different pile. :wink:

you can call it what you want, but it still kicks the crap out of any car you own, straight line and around turns!

[Hille]

LOL It didn't last year. Bring it.

[SpyderGSX]

LOL It didn't last year. Bring it.

Yeah sure...
Results from GSS (http://www.cwscc.com/gss2007nightpax.html)

[Greg86z28]

How come Tom is the only one in the BSP class? Does he have his own class so he's guaranteed a win every time!? Hehe

:jumpy:

[Hille]

Oh what about this:

http://www.cwscc.com/gss2007raw.html

Look at the overall standings Greg.

[ExtremeDSM]

I see poopy in there.

[Hille]

In your shorts????? :dunno:

[SpyderGSX]

Tom's Evo should be in SM because he alters his boost levels. But instead he'll put his evo into BSP, just so he does not have to be in the same class as me.

[Hille]

BSP as of 2007 allows boost increases. So stick that in your panties and snap it.

Moss and Hutch have the last word on classing. I think Spyder GSX should be in the whiner class.

[DRK]

I think Spyder GSX should be in the whiner class.

That should be the quote of this forum
:jumpy: :jumpy:

[SpyderGSX]

That should be the quote of this forum
:jumpy: :jumpy:

I think DRK needs to bring something to the table and race.

[DRK]

race what were? http://www.openroadracing.com/html/ponyexpress.html

[Greg86z28]

Who's Richard Hille? He's part of the 200mph club.